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Do you want Cahill to be Alex's replacement should Alex leave?

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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:09 pm

Villas-Boas has confirmed the club are interested in him:

Andre Villas-Boas wrote:
"We are aware of Gary's contractual situation. He's an interesting player for the club.

You know that we have taken a decision this season regarding the central defenders, regarding Alex.

We haven't decided yet what we are going to do with the Alex situation.

We have to make the wisest decision, be it Alex, be it Cahill."


So basically he's saying if Alex leaves Cahill will be considered a possible replacement, if Alex doesn't leave then Cahill won't come.

Cahill's contract expires this summer and we can easily get him for less than 10m this January. Now that I think about it this wouldn't be such a bad deal because lets be honest, Cahill is never going to be a starter for us and he's only going to be brought in to be the third or fourth choice defender. He's not suited to the high line either so he's basically just a replacement for fourth-choice Alex. In addition, Cahill won't threaten Bruma's or Kalas's or even Chalobah's place because when those guys come in they would be competing directly for the starting 11 spot.

Personally I won't mind him coming if Alex leaves.

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Post by Kick Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:14 pm

No,

There are better options, such as a mushroom.
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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:17 pm

kick mars wrote:No,

There are better options, such as a mushroom.

:lol!:

Who else would you choose? Or do you think no replacement is necessary?

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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:19 pm

Dammit just realized the poll doesn't make much sense hehe

Could a mod combine the 'no' and 'buy a better defender' options?

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Post by Zero Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:33 pm

AVB. :facepalm:

How about Bruma and your youth?
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Post by Kick Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:36 pm

english_jewel wrote:
kick mars wrote:No,

There are better options, such as a mushroom.

:lol!:

Who else would you choose? Or do you think no replacement is necessary?

I would much rather spend 30m on Smalling or buy someone from another country than buy Cahill. The only way I would take him is if everyone else said no. I don't rate the guy.
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Post by Abramovich Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:49 pm

Do not want, although if he accepts a decent wage and a role as a 3/4th choice then £7M is aight I'd still like to see a price below the 5 mark though. Being English I suppose his fee doubles Laughing , Alex is leaving anyways and he's not cup tied for UCL which is a bonus if we get some sort of crisis.
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Post by iNFINITY9910 Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:57 pm

Nah.. I would rather spend on a winger or a RB , thats me though lol
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Post by Blue Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:36 pm

No, i don't think he is any good.
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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:02 pm

meteormaker wrote:AVB. :facepalm:

How about Bruma and your youth?

How about you read the OP before you come up with foolish conclusions? I already addressed those concerns.

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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:31 pm

kick mars wrote:
english_jewel wrote:
kick mars wrote:No,

There are better options, such as a mushroom.

:lol!:

Who else would you choose? Or do you think no replacement is necessary?

I would much rather spend 30m on Smalling or buy someone from another country than buy Cahill. The only way I would take him is if everyone else said no. I don't rate the guy.

But don't you think he's a good enough third/fourth choice defender? Why would you want to spend 30m on a defender who we would then have to put in the starting 11 and then bench one of Terry and Luiz? We already have quality defenders on loan we just need to fill in the spot left by Alex, that's all.

Also Cahill is a home grown player and Alex is not, so we will have 1 non-homegrown spot open should we get him, which we could use for another player. Also I don't think he'll cost more than 10m since Bolton will have to sell in January, and when Alex leaves he'll generate money so we'll basically be paying what we get for Alex on Cahill.

Buying a RB won't solve anything in terms of the CB situation.

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Post by Kick Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:06 am

Smalling is young and english and IMO a better player, he would be third choice and would secure up our defence for years IMO.

What I am saying is I jut don't rate Cahill that highly, but if worst comes to worst I would accept him.
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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:27 am

I don't rate Cahill highly either. He is a bit above average defender.

But if comes for less than 10m and with Alex going for around 5m and us needing a CB I think it's only a win-win situation.

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Post by Soul Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:48 am

Cahill > Alex on current form and tactics

He's English and if he's willing to settle for a rotation role for a decent fee, why not? We are replacing Alex for depth, not finding the successor to Terry.

Ivanovic may not like it but he can't deny that he is much better at RB.

Ivanovic Luiz/Cahill Terry Cole - looks good.
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Post by RuthlesGangstaDef:villin Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:53 am

his par with alex so yes for under 8 mil
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Post by Abramovich Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:38 pm

Smalling is all but a dream, lets go ask Spurs for Kyle Walker whilst we are at it :lol!:
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Post by Katy Perry Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:37 am

Since he is probably the best available now i'd be fine if we get him
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instead of playing bosingwa as a CB :facepalm:
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Post by Blue Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:24 am

jay07 wrote:Since he is probably the best available now i'd be fine if we get him
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instead of playing bosingwa as a CB :facepalm:

tbf Bosingwa did well. Neutral
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Post by RuthlesGangstaDef:villin Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:19 am

@Blue wrote:
jay07 wrote:Since he is probably the best available now i'd be fine if we get him
Spoiler:
instead of playing bosingwa as a CB Gary Cahill 1625187496

tbf Bosingwa did well. Neutral

Good tactics from AVB
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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:35 am

@RuthlesGangstaDef:villin wrote:
@Blue wrote:
jay07 wrote:Since he is probably the best available now i'd be fine if we get him
Spoiler:
instead of playing bosingwa as a CB Gary Cahill 1625187496

tbf Bosingwa did well. Neutral

Good tactics from AVB

Could had backfired as easily to be honest.

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Post by Zero Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:54 am

english_jewel wrote:
meteormaker wrote:AVB. :facepalm:

How about Bruma and your youth?

How about you read the OP before you come up with foolish conclusions? I already addressed those concerns.

Never concluded anything I was just asking questions. Sorry. eco smile


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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:03 am

meteormaker wrote:
english_jewel wrote:
meteormaker wrote:AVB. :facepalm:

How about Bruma and your youth?

How about you read the OP before you come up with foolish conclusions? I already addressed those concerns.

Never concluded anything I was just asking questions.

You see we need a replacement for Alex if he leaves because the only CB's we'll have left would be Luiz, Terry and Ivanovic. In that case we could either a) buy a 20m+ talented CB who would want a starting 11 spot and replace Luiz or Terry or b) buy a defender like Cahill who would never make it into our starting 11 but be a direct replacement for Alex.

Since we would need a replacement, in that case option b is actually the best option bearing the fact that we two of the best defensive prospects in Europe, Bruma and Kalas, who still need until June or until 2012 to be introduced into the starting 11.

Of course the media is going to call for Cahill to replace Luiz but we all know that Cahill is just an above average English defender who'll never get past the bench at Chelsea. In other words Cahill would just be for the short term, as he wouldn't fit into the high line either.

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Post by Zero Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:08 am

english_jewel wrote:
meteormaker wrote:
english_jewel wrote:
meteormaker wrote:AVB. :facepalm:

How about Bruma and your youth?

How about you read the OP before you come up with foolish conclusions? I already addressed those concerns.

Never concluded anything I was just asking questions.

You see we need a replacement for Alex if he leaves because the only CB's we'll have left would be Luiz, Terry and Ivanovic. In that case we could either a) buy a 20m+ talented CB who would want a starting 11 spot and replace Luiz or Terry or b) buy a defender like Cahill who would never make it into our starting 11 but be a direct replacement for Alex.

Since we would need a replacement, in that case option b is actually the best option bearing the fact that we two of the best defensive prospects in Europe, Bruma and Kalas, who still need until June or until 2012 to be introduced into the starting 11.

Of course the media is going to call for Cahill to replace Luiz but we all know that Cahill is just an above average English defender who'll never get past the bench at Chelsea. In other words Cahill would just be for the short term, as he wouldn't fit into the high line either.

Thanks for the explanation. I really do think that the media is just hyping up Cahill. He's not horrible but he isn't an upgrade over any of your CBs. So a short term for Alex he is. He should not even cost anywhere above 10m to be honest.
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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:10 am

meteormaker wrote:
english_jewel wrote:
meteormaker wrote:
english_jewel wrote:
meteormaker wrote:AVB. :facepalm:

How about Bruma and your youth?

How about you read the OP before you come up with foolish conclusions? I already addressed those concerns.

Never concluded anything I was just asking questions.

You see we need a replacement for Alex if he leaves because the only CB's we'll have left would be Luiz, Terry and Ivanovic. In that case we could either a) buy a 20m+ talented CB who would want a starting 11 spot and replace Luiz or Terry or b) buy a defender like Cahill who would never make it into our starting 11 but be a direct replacement for Alex.

Since we would need a replacement, in that case option b is actually the best option bearing the fact that we two of the best defensive prospects in Europe, Bruma and Kalas, who still need until June or until 2012 to be introduced into the starting 11.

Of course the media is going to call for Cahill to replace Luiz but we all know that Cahill is just an above average English defender who'll never get past the bench at Chelsea. In other words Cahill would just be for the short term, as he wouldn't fit into the high line either.

Thanks for the explanation. I really do think that the media is just hyping up Cahill. He's not horrible but he isn't an upgrade over any of your CBs. So a short term for Alex he is. He should not even cost anywhere above 10m to be honest.

We shouldn't pay anything more than 9m pounds for him. If we are interested, I imagine the negotiations would last until the last day since Bolton would try to cough up as much money as possible (his contract expires this summer).

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Post by Blue Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:48 am

Tbh i think we might need two CB.

Ivanovic is a RB imo, Terry is most likely going to be suspended sometime in February, and lets hope Luiz stays injury free.

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