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Post by pUsHa Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:39 pm

Football has won today , that is all i have to say :dance:

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Post by aleumdance Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:39 pm

Seppuku wrote:
poolsupporter wrote:You believe it's racism. Others do not. We'll all agree to disagree. But you have no right to label people who don't agree with you as racists.

Wasn't that the same logic that the Civil Rights Movement went at lengths to eradicate?

Some of the shit being spewed here is just, wow.
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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:40 pm

che wrote:
elmystique wrote:


some were quick to explain to me there are "degrees of racism"

- some told me physical racial abuse >>> verbal racial abuse

- some said "short black man" is a cultural slur

surely my good sire you can see better than you currently are...

that's adorable, because from the dozen or so arguments i made here, you responded to precisely zero and now you go and take the moral *bleep* high ground when you have nothing else to say

can we close this thread pls?

tell me all I pointed up there was not right...
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Post by Nirgal Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:40 pm

aleumdance wrote:
Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:
aleumdance wrote:
Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:"the impact

HOW EVRA WOULD FEEL ABOUT BEING CALLED A NEGRITO MATE.

and ofc, his suspension now.."


This statement is not proof that Suarez clearly knew the impact of what he said?

Try again.


I just showed you how the word negrito and negro are well known to be racist words in western countries

if that is not enough prove to you then pls mate

support suarez,

task for you, Try and travel more

ps: suarez is feeling the "impact" of what he said

You just don't get it. You cannot prove what Suarez knew. You can't. It doesn't make any sense.


LET ME REPHRASE

" its a well know fact in South America that the word negro and negrito are frowned uponed and sometimes seen as RACIST in western countries"

so you telling me Suarez grew up in the wrong side of South America?

This is simply not true.

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Post by Le Samourai Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:41 pm

Clearly no one here has ever used the word hooligan or barbarian since no one seems to want to respond to the question.
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Post by Arquitecto Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:41 pm

Nirgal wrote:I feel I'm somehow being ignored regardless of being the only one of the same cultural background of suarez.

Doesn't anybody think I could be helpful to understand what's going on?

I honestly think its the lack of avatar and sig as posters without them aren't noticed.

I'm surprised as well.

OT: El-Mystique, your logic and reasoning is faultier then a Morris Marina
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Post by che Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:41 pm

on a side note, the reason i put seppuku on my ignore list (other than the raging stupidity) is an old quote from the offtopic section

slavs are a plague on humanity

for which he got banned (temporarily, i imagine if he said "blacks" instead of "slavs" he'd go permanently, but wth), so quoting that ginormous pile of shit of a human being on matters of racism is, um, inadvisable
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Post by Red Alert Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:42 pm

poolsupporter wrote:My opinion is that I don't consider the situation to be racism. Until a time when evidence comes out that proves or brings to light something I don't already know, I'm sticking with this.

You're going to be waiting for a very long time.

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Post by poolsupporter Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:42 pm

Seppuku wrote:
poolsupporter wrote:You believe it's racism. Others do not. We'll all agree to disagree. But you have no right to label people who don't agree with you as racists.

Wasn't that the same logic that the Civil Rights Movement went at lengths to eradicate?

Some of the shit being spewed here is just, wow.

Why are you surprised? This case isn't blatant racism in any way in my opinion.
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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:43 pm

ragbirjosh wrote:Clearly no one here has ever used the word hooligan or barbarian since no one seems to want to respond to the question.

now hooligan and barbarian became a race....

and yet these same people claim they back their stuff up with effective sh*t Laughing
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Post by Nirgal Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:43 pm

Arquitecto wrote:
Nirgal wrote:I feel I'm somehow being ignored regardless of being the only one of the same cultural background of suarez.

Doesn't anybody think I could be helpful to understand what's going on?

I honestly think its the lack of avatar and sig as posters without them aren't noticed.

I'm surprised as well.

OT: El-Mystique, your logic and reasoning is faultier then a Morris Marina


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Post by aleumdance Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:43 pm

Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:
aleumdance wrote:
Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:
aleumdance wrote:
Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:"the impact

HOW EVRA WOULD FEEL ABOUT BEING CALLED A NEGRITO MATE.

and ofc, his suspension now.."


This statement is not proof that Suarez clearly knew the impact of what he said?

Try again.


I just showed you how the word negrito and negro are well known to be racist words in western countries

if that is not enough prove to you then pls mate

support suarez,

task for you, Try and travel more

ps: suarez is feeling the "impact" of what he said

You just don't get it. You cannot prove what Suarez knew. You can't. It doesn't make any sense.


LET ME REPHRASE

" its a well know fact in South America that the word negro and negrito are frowned uponed and sometimes seen as RACIST in western countries"

so you telling me Suarez grew up in the wrong side of South America?

I am not telling you anything. I'm asking you to prove something. You can type what ever spin you want but there is no way you can PROVE that Suarez clearly knew the impact of what he said.

ok mate, lets talk logic with logic

you want me to PROVE

I told you thats its known in SA ( INCLUDING FVCKING URUGUAY) that calling a Black Westerner is racist

now if Suarez is Urugyan, that means he knows this,

if an Urugyan uses this on a BLACK MAN

HAS THAT NOT PROVED YOUR DAMN ARGUEMENT..

jeez do we also need IQ tests in here
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Post by Grande_Milano Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:44 pm

yep seppuku abused a good number of people there in that phrase. i am not mad at him, as I think this isnt really a great degree of abuse. But he is being hypocritical
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Post by Seppuku Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:44 pm

loooool, u mad bro?

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Post by Arquitecto Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:45 pm

che wrote:on a side note, the reason i put seppuku on my ignore list (other than the raging stupidity) is an old quote from the offtopic section

slavs are a plague on humanity

for which he got banned (temporarily, i imagine if he said "blacks" instead of "slavs" he'd go permanently, but wth), so quoting that ginormous pile of shit of a human being on matters of racism is, um, inadvisable

Oh my goodness..... this'll be even bigger ownage then when you did so to me in the Goal forums.

Repent Seppaku, or sprout out another tourette's rant.
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Post by che Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:45 pm

aleumdance wrote:

ok mate, lets talk logic with logic

you want me to PROVE

I told you thats its known in SA ( INCLUDING FVCKING URUGUAY) that calling a Black Westerner is racist

now if Suarez is Urugyan, that means he knows this,

if an Urugyan uses this on a BLACK MAN

HAS THAT NOT PROVED YOUR DAMN ARGUEMENT..

jeez do we also need IQ tests in here

no it hasn't because in a court of law (which the fa obviously ain't), guilt must be proven beyond reasonable doubt, and i REALLY don't think that would be possible in this case

what we have here is a witch hunt... everytime someone brings up issues of racism fa can wash their hands over the entire issue saying basically "but look guys, we banned suarez forever, we can't be racist"
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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:45 pm

Arquitecto wrote:
Nirgal wrote:I feel I'm somehow being ignored regardless of being the only one of the same cultural background of suarez.

Doesn't anybody think I could be helpful to understand what's going on?

I honestly think its the lack of avatar and sig as posters without them aren't noticed.

I'm surprised as well.

OT: El-Mystique, your logic and reasoning is faultier then a Morris Marina

I can see that only a few jabs knocked top boss off his high horse...
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Post by pUsHa Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:46 pm

I feel bad for Liverpool ... but Suarez is the most disgraceful football player i have ever seen and he deserves this ban ...
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Post by Nirgal Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:47 pm

aleumdance wrote:
Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:
aleumdance wrote:
Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:
aleumdance wrote:
Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:"the impact

HOW EVRA WOULD FEEL ABOUT BEING CALLED A NEGRITO MATE.

and ofc, his suspension now.."


This statement is not proof that Suarez clearly knew the impact of what he said?

Try again.


I just showed you how the word negrito and negro are well known to be racist words in western countries

if that is not enough prove to you then pls mate

support suarez,

task for you, Try and travel more

ps: suarez is feeling the "impact" of what he said

You just don't get it. You cannot prove what Suarez knew. You can't. It doesn't make any sense.


LET ME REPHRASE

" its a well know fact in South America that the word negro and negrito are frowned uponed and sometimes seen as RACIST in western countries"

so you telling me Suarez grew up in the wrong side of South America?

I am not telling you anything. I'm asking you to prove something. You can type what ever spin you want but there is no way you can PROVE that Suarez clearly knew the impact of what he said.

ok mate, lets talk logic with logic

you want me to PROVE

I told you thats its known in SA ( INCLUDING FVCKING URUGUAY) that calling a Black Westerner is racist

now if Suarez is Urugyan, that means he knows this,

if an Urugyan uses this on a BLACK MAN

HAS THAT NOT PROVED YOUR DAMN ARGUEMENT..

jeez do we also need IQ tests in here

i'm not sure where you get that info but it is incorrect. Calling foreigners "negro" is not considered offensive. nor is it known that the word has a very offensive connotation in english speaking countries. Some more cosmopolitan people may know it, but the general population does not.
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Post by Le Samourai Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:47 pm

ragbirjosh wrote:
in Spanish-speaking countries such as Argentina, Chile, and Uruguay where there are few people of African origin and appearance, negro (negra for females) is commonly used to refer to partners, close friends

Barbarian and savage are terms used to refer to a person who is perceived to be uncivilized. The word is often used either in a general reference to a member of a nation or ethnos, typically a tribal society as seen by an urban civilization either viewed as inferior

Barbarian= the most xenophobic word in the english dictionary

Hooligain is offensive to the Irish.


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Post by TheRedStag Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:47 pm

aleumdance wrote:
Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:
aleumdance wrote:
Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:
aleumdance wrote:
Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:"the impact

HOW EVRA WOULD FEEL ABOUT BEING CALLED A NEGRITO MATE.

and ofc, his suspension now.."


This statement is not proof that Suarez clearly knew the impact of what he said?

Try again.


I just showed you how the word negrito and negro are well known to be racist words in western countries

if that is not enough prove to you then pls mate

support suarez,

task for you, Try and travel more

ps: suarez is feeling the "impact" of what he said

You just don't get it. You cannot prove what Suarez knew. You can't. It doesn't make any sense.


LET ME REPHRASE

" its a well know fact in South America that the word negro and negrito are frowned uponed and sometimes seen as RACIST in western countries"

so you telling me Suarez grew up in the wrong side of South America?

I am not telling you anything. I'm asking you to prove something. You can type what ever spin you want but there is no way you can PROVE that Suarez clearly knew the impact of what he said.

ok mate, lets talk logic with logic

you want me to PROVE

I told you thats its known in SA ( INCLUDING FVCKING URUGUAY) that calling a Black Westerner is racist

now if Suarez is Urugyan, that means he knows this,

if an Urugyan uses this on a BLACK MAN

HAS THAT NOT PROVED YOUR DAMN ARGUEMENT..

jeez do we also need IQ tests in here

:facepalm: is all I can say to that.
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Post by Grande_Milano Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:48 pm

Seppuku wrote:loooool, u mad bro?


Just exposing the troll
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Post by aleumdance Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:48 pm

che wrote:
aleumdance wrote:

ok mate, lets talk logic with logic

you want me to PROVE

I told you thats its known in SA ( INCLUDING FVCKING URUGUAY) that calling a Black Westerner is racist

now if Suarez is Urugyan, that means he knows this,

if an Urugyan uses this on a BLACK MAN

HAS THAT NOT PROVED YOUR DAMN ARGUEMENT..

jeez do we also need IQ tests in here

no it hasn't because in a court of law (which the fa obviously ain't), guilt must be proven beyond reasonable doubt, and i REALLY don't think that would be possible in this case

what we have here is a witch hunt... everytime someone brings up issues of racism fa can wash their hands over the entire issue saying basically "but look guys, we banned suarez forever, we can't be racist"

In England, the FA word is final, that's that

so if Suarez said the word negrito, and he did not mean too, but still said it

and the FA bans him, that final

case closed
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Post by rsinatra Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:48 pm

this thread should be locked..
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Post by che Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:49 pm

right, because questioning authority would be such a bad thing...
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Post by TheRedStag Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:50 pm

aleumdance wrote:
che wrote:
aleumdance wrote:

ok mate, lets talk logic with logic

you want me to PROVE

I told you thats its known in SA ( INCLUDING FVCKING URUGUAY) that calling a Black Westerner is racist

now if Suarez is Urugyan, that means he knows this,

if an Urugyan uses this on a BLACK MAN

HAS THAT NOT PROVED YOUR DAMN ARGUEMENT..

jeez do we also need IQ tests in here

no it hasn't because in a court of law (which the fa obviously ain't), guilt must be proven beyond reasonable doubt, and i REALLY don't think that would be possible in this case

what we have here is a witch hunt... everytime someone brings up issues of racism fa can wash their hands over the entire issue saying basically "but look guys, we banned suarez forever, we can't be racist"

In England, the FA word is final, that's that

so if Suarez said the word negrito, and he did not mean too, but still said it

and the FA bans him, that final

case closed

Case closed but you can't prove it.
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