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Post by rsinatra Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:15 pm

bhends wrote:
Potential wrote:Meanwhile in Spain
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To be fair, calling someone a monkey isn't considered racist in uruguay

says who? it's not as bad as the n word but it has a racist tone i think

i've seen documentaries about Pelé, when santos went to argentina to play the libertadores agaisnt them, all the fans were calling the santistas little monkeys from brazil..

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Post by Guest Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:16 pm




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Post by Nirgal Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:16 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:
Nirgal wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:from wiki

The Negrito are a class of several ethnic groups who inhabit isolated parts of Southeast Asia.[1]
Their current populations include 12 Andamanese peoples of the Andaman Islands, six Semang peoples of Malaysia, the Mani of Thailand, and the Aeta, Agta, Ati, and 30 other peoples of the Philippines. Reports from British traders also speak of negrito people on Borneo (Sarawak). (Journal of the Malayan Branch Royal Asiatic Society, Vol. XXIX, part 1, 1956)
Negritos share some common physical features with African pygmy populations, including short stature, natural afro-hair texture, and dark skin; however, their origin and the route of their migration to Asia is still a matter of great speculation. They are the most genetically distant human population from Africans at most loci studied thus far (except for MC1R, which codes for dark skin).
They have also been shown to have separated early from Asians, suggesting that they are either surviving descendants of settlers from an early migration out of Africa, commonly referred to as the Proto-Australoids, or that they are descendants of one of the founder populations of modern humans.[2]


The term "Negrito" is the Spanish diminutive of negro, i.e. "little black person", referring to their small stature, and was coined by early European explorers.[3]
Occasionally, some Negritos are referred to as pygmies, bundling them with peoples of similar physical stature in Central Africa, and likewise, the term Negrito was previously occasionally used to refer to African Pygmies.[4]

of course, Wiki will tell us native spanish speaker from Rio de la plata what the words we use "really" mean.

i am sure its isnt a guy from green land who has written this...goes to show that all the bs people have put on here is just well bs

HE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT HE MEANT

You can try to chat with me in spanish or tell another spanish speaker to try and tell you.

And simply because you put it in caps it doesn't mean he knew. he really could not have now the connotation in english. Actually it's quite likely he didn't.


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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:16 pm

Grande_Milano wrote:If elmytisque and some ppl on here were in charge of political correctness policy, 99 per cent of Earth would go in jail.

so you are racist?
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Post by RED Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:16 pm

Why can't Liverpool fans, for once in their lives, stop playing the self pitying 'everyone-is-against-us-cards' when it comes to bad decisions against them.

You're club has come out of this looking really bad, trying to tarnish Evra's name and falsely accusing him of making it up, when he has, and now the FA, has the evidence that backs what he is saying. The evidence will come to light in a couple of days. People will see the reason why Suarez has been banned and fined.

Just look at the context in which Suarez was using the term 'Negro'. He wasn't using it in a friendly manner, he was using it to bait and wind up Evra. Evra heard the term "negro" and was understandably pissed off.

Why is it so hard to digest? Suarez has priors in terms of winding up people. He bit an opponent, cheated in the WC, gave the finger to Fulham fans and continuosly to dive and cheat in the prem. It is not hard to not believe he did this to Evra.

I'm really dissapointed in the LFC fans here who continue to support this person.
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Post by TheRedStag Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:17 pm

aleumdance wrote:
Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:
Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:
aleumdance wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:seriously are people tryign to argue that suarez doesnt know that negrito or negro is offensive to black people.......gimme a break

FINALLY

Suarez clearly knew the impact of what he said

Id love to see you try prove that

aleumdance. Can you please prove that Suarez clearly knew the impact of what he said?


Its a well known fact in South American Countries that teh words negro and negrito are frowned upon and sometimes seen as racist in English speaking countries

Suarez knew this, SUAREZ KNOWS THIS.


all this talk about him not knowing it is major and complete BULLSHITE

No no, you see this is what I'm asking you to PROVE. Not Repeat.

So prove that statement. Prove Suarez clearly knew the impact of what he said?

Thanks in advance.
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Post by Nirgal Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:18 pm

rsinatra wrote:
bhends wrote:
Potential wrote:Meanwhile in Spain
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To be fair, calling someone a monkey isn't considered racist in uruguay

says who? it's not as bad as the n word but it has a racist tone i think

i've seen documentaries about Pelé, when santos went to argentina to play the libertadores agaisnt them, all the fans were calling the santistas little monkeys from brazil..

Calling someone monkey is most definitely racist in southamerica. At least in all countries I've been.
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Post by Guest Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:18 pm

I'm gonna spit on his/her face next time a negro person called another black person, any variations of that include N-G-and R.


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Post by Le Samourai Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:18 pm

Elmystique :brickwall:

That's this entire thread.

13 pages of Elmystique being :brickwall:

Have you ever called someone a hooligan? or a barbarian perhaps?

/thread.
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Post by che Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:18 pm

aleumdance wrote:


Its a well known fact in South American Countries that teh words negro and negrito are frowned upon and sometimes seen as racist in English speaking countries

Suarez knew this, SUAREZ KNOWS THIS.


all this talk about him not knowing it is major and complete BULLSHITE

because football players in the middle of a massive game often spend large amounts of time considering what impact their words may have, or their meaning in the local language...

the fact that suarez said "negrito" and not "nigger" (mods don't ban me pls) should speak for the very case that it was an impulsive uttering in his native language and meaning of the language
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Post by Guest Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:19 pm

Kenny has asked for backing too.

We'll take FA to court and sue them for millions.

Happy days !

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Post by aleumdance Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:21 pm

[/quote]

No no, you see this is what I'm asking you to PROVE. Not Repeat.

So prove that statement. Prove Suarez clearly knew the impact of what he said?

Thanks in advance. [/quote]

the impact

HOW EVRA WOULD FEEL ABOUT BEING CALLED A NEGRITO MATE.

and ofc, his suspension now..
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Post by Nirgal Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:21 pm

elmystique wrote:
Nirgal wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:from wiki

The Negrito are a class of several ethnic groups who inhabit isolated parts of Southeast Asia.[1]
Their current populations include 12 Andamanese peoples of the Andaman Islands, six Semang peoples of Malaysia, the Mani of Thailand, and the Aeta, Agta, Ati, and 30 other peoples of the Philippines. Reports from British traders also speak of negrito people on Borneo (Sarawak). (Journal of the Malayan Branch Royal Asiatic Society, Vol. XXIX, part 1, 1956)
Negritos share some common physical features with African pygmy populations, including short stature, natural afro-hair texture, and dark skin; however, their origin and the route of their migration to Asia is still a matter of great speculation. They are the most genetically distant human population from Africans at most loci studied thus far (except for MC1R, which codes for dark skin).
They have also been shown to have separated early from Asians, suggesting that they are either surviving descendants of settlers from an early migration out of Africa, commonly referred to as the Proto-Australoids, or that they are descendants of one of the founder populations of modern humans.[2]


The term "Negrito" is the Spanish diminutive of negro, i.e. "little black person", referring to their small stature, and was coined by early European explorers.[3]
Occasionally, some Negritos are referred to as pygmies, bundling them with peoples of similar physical stature in Central Africa, and likewise, the term Negrito was previously occasionally used to refer to African Pygmies.[4]

of course, Wiki will tell us native spanish speaker from Rio de la plata what the words we use "really" mean.

so now Evra also uses "Negrito" so its fair that someone that uses it calls him by it? :facepalm:

I'm not sure what you mean by that.
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Post by Guest Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:21 pm

What shouldn't be forgotten is that Henry and Warner are by nature businessmen who's entire philosophy is based on risk aversion.

They have gone way beyond the call of duty in personally backing Suarez during the hearing and in releasing this statement.

They quite simply would not of done that without massive thought and will be totally aware of the ramifications of doing so.

I for one trust them and Kenny implicitly in this matter.


Our American Lawyers will take FA to cleaners.

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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:22 pm

ragbirjosh wrote:Elmystique :brickwall:

That's this entire thread.

13 pages of Elmystique being :brickwall:

Have you ever called someone a hooligan? or a barbarian perhaps?

/thread.

can't back up your arguments sonny? bounce
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Post by Guest Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:22 pm

Interesting:

On Bluemoon, RedCafe, Arsenal Mania and Glory-Glory = AMAZING Ban !!, well deserved. BRAVO FA, BRAVO !!

On rest of teams forums = 50/50


hmm

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Post by RealGunner Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:22 pm

I dont understand why you have been debating for 13 pages Elm ? This isnt your fight, This has nothing to do with you mate.

The ones who should be debating are the Man utd fans or Liverpool haters.
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Post by Guest Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:23 pm

Suarez' last game of the ban will be Man United away. You can't make this stuff up. Oh hang on, the FA have.

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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:24 pm

che wrote:
aleumdance wrote:


Its a well known fact in South American Countries that teh words negro and negrito are frowned upon and sometimes seen as racist in English speaking countries

Suarez knew this, SUAREZ KNOWS THIS.


all this talk about him not knowing it is major and complete BULLSHITE

because football players in the middle of a massive game often spend large amounts of time considering what impact their words may have, or their meaning in the local language...

the fact that suarez said "negrito" and not "nigger" (mods don't ban me pls) should speak for the very case that it was an impulsive uttering in his native language and meaning of the language

Evra = short and black

Negrito = short and black man according the meanings I have seen

how dumb can you get?
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Post by Arquitecto Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:24 pm

elmystique wrote:
ragbirjosh wrote:Elmystique :brickwall:

That's this entire thread.

13 pages of Elmystique being :brickwall:

Have you ever called someone a hooligan? or a barbarian perhaps?

/thread.

can't back up your arguments sonny? bounce

The Irony here is KILLING ME!
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Post by aleumdance Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:24 pm

che wrote:
aleumdance wrote:


Its a well known fact in South American Countries that teh words negro and negrito are frowned upon and sometimes seen as racist in English speaking countries

Suarez knew this, SUAREZ KNOWS THIS.


all this talk about him not knowing it is major and complete BULLSHITE

because football players in the middle of a massive game often spend large amounts of time considering what impact their words may have, or their meaning in the local language...

the fact that suarez said "negrito" and not "nigger" (mods don't ban me pls) should speak for the very case that it was an impulsive uttering in his native language and meaning of the language


still....mate, still, you said the word you said the word

pay for it
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Post by TheRedStag Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:24 pm

"the impact

HOW EVRA WOULD FEEL ABOUT BEING CALLED A NEGRITO MATE.

and ofc, his suspension now.."


This statement is not proof that Suarez clearly knew the impact of what he said?

Try again.
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Post by Nirgal Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:24 pm

aleumdance wrote:
Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:
Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:
aleumdance wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:seriously are people tryign to argue that suarez doesnt know that negrito or negro is offensive to black people.......gimme a break

FINALLY

Suarez clearly knew the impact of what he said

Id love to see you try prove that

aleumdance. Can you please prove that Suarez clearly knew the impact of what he said?


Its a well known fact in South American Countries that teh words negro and negrito are frowned upon and sometimes seen as racist in English speaking countries

Suarez knew this, SUAREZ KNOWS THIS.


all this talk about him not knowing it is major and complete BULLSHITE

I've lived my whole life in south america and I can honestly tell you most people don't even know that the word "negro" or "negrito" have any meaning in english. They assume that is ininteligible for them.
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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:25 pm

RealGunner wrote:I dont understand why you have been debating for 13 pages Elm ? This isnt your fight, This has nothing to do with you mate.

The ones who should be debating are the Man utd fans or Liverpool haters.

racism has no place in this world and the mere fact I see people trying to back it up keeps me in here to unmask them...
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Post by paddy Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:26 pm

:bow: Andy Carroll to the rescue

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