Will RVP leave Arsenal?

I see him leaving if our board doesn't stop buying rejects. I mean we're linked with Kalou, Gourcuff ffs.

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Whats wrong for an elite club to pay their best player 200k a week? stop being so cheap

They have a wage structure, which is good and bad in some ways as it is kinda old fashioned in a way to have it. But credit to the principles I suppose, they are doing it 'ethically'.

I just dont see why some players leaving Arsenal are being called money whores lol,Nasri left for trophies and Fabregas transfer had an effect on him leaving..

ali8775 wrote:If you would want the greatest manager in our history and the man behind the clubs resurgence sacked just because our best player would leave then I don't know what to say.

Vieira, Henry, Pires, Flamini, Lass (we played without a DM for a couple seasons ffs), Adebayor, Toure, Clichy, Nasri, Fabregas..... on and on and on...

You didnt get my point which was he let our senior players go so easilly which take us years back and start from all over again and again and again....

Lex wrote:

Gladiator wrote:The likes of Walcott and Gervinho haven't done enough in terms of scoring.

Between them, they've set up at least half of RVP's goals

Completely irrelevant to what I said. In terms of scoring was mentioned for a reason.

Adit wrote:I just dont see why some players leaving Arsenal are being called money whores lol,Nasri left for trophies and Fabregas transfer had an effect on him leaving..

This thread has nothing to do with Nasri or Fabregas, no need to go offtopic.

urbaNRoots wrote:

Adit wrote:I just dont see why some players leaving Arsenal are being called money whores lol,Nasri left for trophies and Fabregas transfer had an effect on him leaving..

This thread has nothing to do with Nasri or Fabregas, no need to go offtopic.

well it has,RVP is not in a different position to them either,i wouldnt call him money whore if he left for more wage and for a better club btw..

Adit wrote:

urbaNRoots wrote:

Adit wrote:I just dont see why some players leaving Arsenal are being called money whores lol,Nasri left for trophies and Fabregas transfer had an effect on him leaving..

This thread has nothing to do with Nasri or Fabregas, no need to go offtopic.

well it has,RVP is not in a different position to them either,i wouldnt call him money whore if he left for more wage and for a better club btw..

No one called ever Fabregas a moneywhore, you're making things up, Nasri was called so, because he's - if we wanted trophys he would sign with Manchester United who where Champions League finalists and Premier League champions and needed him more.

ragbirjosh wrote:

lenear1030 wrote:i still dont see why people made it a deal out of arsenal selling nasri....


losing eboue had more of an effect on us, and im not even joking

Because you sold 2 out of your 3 best players(arguably) after a mediocre season.....and bought arguably worse replacements.(Gervinhio might be as good but definitely not better)

That's not progress.

Arsenal could win the Premeir Leauge every year if they did things just a bit differently.......that's how good Wenger is...........but he's small minded.

But nasri wasnt even needed in the team. part of the blame does go to our management/wenger though. the situation: nasri performs well for half a season (1st half of 2010-2011) then falls off. all of a sudden right at the season's end City swoops in and says "hey we want nasri for 25m" RIGHT THEN AND THERE we shouldve said oh hell yeah, pleasure doing business with you sheikh mansour. but no, wenger believed in him too much and nasri wanted to play in the center (where he is even worse). This belief wenger had in him caused him to be overrated by the media especially after selling cesc (i wont outline that saga).


the fact of the matter is nasri wasnt even close to being considered essential, and he and cesc shouldve been sold at the BEGINNING of the transfer window in the summer. anyone who looked at the situation objectively knew they wanted out but wenger couldnt come to grips with reality


the biggest point that people need to understand is that nasri is not some great player. selling him to city for that price was banditry by us.

urbaNRoots wrote:No one called ever Fabregas a moneywhore, you're making things up, Nasri was called so, because he's - if we wanted trophys he would sign with Manchester United who where Champions League finalists and Premier League champions and needed him more.

City are leading the table and are title contenders too so your point is invalid.It was clear that City were going to become a force with all those signings how can nasri not see it ? besides who knows Manutd bid for him or not?

u've got ADP type of player he ain't leaveing

Adit wrote:City are leading the table and are title contenders too so your point is invalid.It was clear that City were going to become a force with all those signings how can nasri not see it ? besides who knows Manutd bid for him or not?

But if he was so ambitious he would still choose Manchester United, they were Champions League finalists and Premier League champions, he couldn't know if Manchester City will be a force or not, they had the same team + Aguero, not to mention that in Manchester United he might would've been a starter.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7032855/Ferguson-gives-up-on-Nasri

Nasri has also been connected with Manchester City, with both they and United said to have bid around £20million for the France midfielder.

"I don't think he is coming to United. That is all I can tell you. I think that he has agreed to go somewhere else."

But Ferguson hinted that if he is leaving the Emirates this summer, it could be to the other side of Manchester.

"I don't think he is coming to United," he said.

"That is all I can tell you. I think that he has agreed to go somewhere else."

Your whole nasri is a "money whore" theory now hangs on him not choosing Mnchester United lol,how fair of a judgement is that ?


So you made it sure Nasri is a money whore bcz of a sky sports rumor? lol

Manutd where even loaded with wingers at the moment lol and he isnt fast enough to play in uniteds counter throw wings system.He cant play in centre midfield either.

Judging a player by a rumor with out knowing his actual personality is indeed not at all fair lol

I suppose Henry signing for barca in 2008 was for money as well?

Adit wrote:Your whole nasri is a "money whore" theory now hangs on him not choosing Mnchester United lol,how fair of a judgement is that ?


So you made it sure Nasri is a money whore bcz of a sky sports rumor? lol

Manutd where even loaded with wingers at the moment lol and he isnt fast enough to play in uniteds counter throw wings system.He cant play in centre midfield either.

Judging a player by a rumor with out knowing his actual personality is indeed not at all fair lol

I suppose Henry signing for barca in 2008 was for money as well?

Yeah, Nasri sure went to city to win trophies and to join "an exciting project,the club for the future". It helped that Vieira(the traitor) was encouraging him as well. The insane amount of money he's getting paid i'm sure was just a tiny tiny little bonus. I wonder if Nasri will ever be a starter at City. His career is going downhill, thats for sure. Who really cares if you win trophies while sitting on the bench?

Henry's situation vs Nasri's with us is not even comparable. It's laughable to compare their situations.

Adit wrote:Your whole nasri is a "money whore" theory now hangs on him not choosing Mnchester United lol,how fair of a judgement is that ?


So you made it sure Nasri is a money whore bcz of a sky sports rumor? lol

Manutd where even loaded with wingers at the moment lol and he isnt fast enough to play in uniteds counter throw wings system.He cant play in centre midfield either.

Judging a player by a rumor with out knowing his actual personality is indeed not at all fair lol

I suppose Henry signing for barca in 2008 was for money as well?

Are you kidding the whole world knows he went there for the money. Who wouldnot go there he is getting paid 3 times the amount Arsenal was paying him.

he is making 180k a week that is Ronlado and Messi money.

he went there for the money and the trophies, dont kid yourself, Money is the most important thing for athletes out there. At 24, when you are going to sign a contract for the next 5 years of your life, you think about the money.

City is top of the table and dominating the BPL. So far it looks like a good move. Even when he plays badly, the other guys pick it up and they can still win.

why is it so hard to accept? if he wins the league he will be 100% justified.

What you guys are saying is nasri went there for money and trophies are just coincidence...how about i reverse it? Nasri went there for Trophies while Him getting payed more is just a coincidence due to Arsenals sub par wage system.

Works both way

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:he went there for the money and the trophies, dont kid yourself, Money is the most important thing for athletes out there. At 24, when you are going to sign a contract for the next 5 years of your life, you think about the money.

City is top of the table and dominating the BPL. So fare it looks like a good move. Even when he plays badly, the other guys pick it up and they can still win.

why is it so hard to accept? if his team wins the league he will be 100% justified, because everyone loves to get paid undeserved amounts of $$$ for not doing sh1t.

Agree with the bold. Na$ri went there for money. "Even when he plays badly, the other guys pick it up" -obviously, because he's not a key player for city AT ALL, even when he plays. It's also pretty hard to play badly from the bench, where he's been spending most of his time.

Fixed the last part for you. If City wins the league, i'm sure he'll be happy because he's making a huge contribution so far.. (oh wait)

Well, at least he's making a ton of cash, good enough for him. Can't blame him for wanting more money. We got 25m for him, with 1 year left on his contract. Great for us, bad business by city but it doesn't matter when your sugar daddy gives you unlimited funds.

I won't lie, I wanted him to stay because I liked him and think he's a quality player, but for the amount we got for him, it's not so bad that he left.

Ok Adit, fine. He went there for the MONEY most importantly, and the free ride to trophies 2nd.

Nasri:

8+5+2 starts in league, CL and carling cup
4 subs appearances
3 goals, 6 assists

say what? bench?

you are petty and jealous, sorry to say

get back on topic please

I can't see him leaving Arsenal anytime in the near future

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:he went there for the money and the trophies, dont kid yourself, Money is the most important thing for athletes out there. At 24, when you are going to sign a contract for the next 5 years of your life, you think about the money.

City is top of the table and dominating the BPL. So far it looks like a good move. Even when he plays badly, the other guys pick it up and they can still win.

why is it so hard to accept? if he wins the league he will be 100% justified.

The difference is not ALL athletes think about money as this is only a recent, but growing trend.

He left because he knew he wasn't capable of such a challenge along with the pressure of winning with a team under such circumstance. Quite obvious he took the easy way out to ride with the team where it'll be easier for him.

Difference is he won't be remembered for this trophy simply because he has been garbage since he has been there.

Trophies to your name won't do anything as its only the performances, ethic and to some extent, the sacrifice you make for your team.

Nobody will remember such a player because he will come and go just like the rest of the athletes who succumb to the easy way out yet look back and wonder why they don't get the recognition they think they would've had.

Athletes' dream is to cement a legacy and be remembered along with having their legacy spoken about.

At the age of 24-25 and having done very little in his career Nasri most likely be remembered by a group of City fans yet even that will be forgotten.

Most recent example of a player who moved for money yet did not receive glory or recognition is Flamini who despite playing much and having decent performances for Milan in their scudetto year, won't be remembered and currently isn't mentioned among the true winners of the trophy.

He wants money? With 60k a week he could have invested that money to secure his 'future' and make even thrice that.

Simply the mark of another athlete that will come and go.

Arq owning the thread

Nasri is vastly overhyped. He had like half a great season and had Zidane comparisons for some reasons. Very inconsistent and shit attitude. Still got 20m out of him so meh.

Walcott picking form and Gervinho actually a great player means we don't miss him much expect for bench reasons.

The Fabregas transfer I can understand due to having all his friends there, family, youth club and the best club by far currently, so that's trophies guaranteed. He's pretty much a key player right now so it's all making sence. It's win win win for him in all aspects.

Nasri? He'll live in shadows as Arq explained.

Arquitecto wrote:

The difference is not ALL athletes think about money as this is only a recent, but growing trend.

He left because he knew he wasn't capable of such a challenge along with the pressure of winning with a team under such circumstance. Quite obvious he took the easy way out to ride with the team where it'll be easier for him.

Difference is he won't be remembered for this trophy simply because he has been garbage since he has been there.

Trophies to your name won't do anything as its only the performances, ethic and to some extent, the sacrifice you make for your team.

Nobody will remember such a player because he will come and go just like the rest of the athletes who succumb to the easy way out yet look back and wonder why they don't get the recognition they think they would've had.

Athletes' dream is to cement a legacy and be remembered along with having their legacy spoken about.

At the age of 24-25 and having done very little in his career Nasri most likely be remembered by a group of City fans yet even that will be forgotten.

Most recent example of a player who moved for money yet did not receive glory or recognition is Flamini who despite playing much and having decent performances for Milan in their scudetto year, won't be remembered and currently isn't mentioned among the true winners of the trophy.

He wants money? With 60k a week he could have invested that money to secure his 'future' and make even thrice that.

Simply the mark of another athlete that will come and go.

Does he want to be remembered the way you describe? i dont know, but there is nothing wrong with looking out for the best situation he can get out of life to maximize his enjoyment through football, while filling up his pockets.

You guys are behind too poetic about fanhood, legacy and what not. It's admirable, but he probably doesnt care. just a hustler making his way out there. If he wants to be remembered, he will just have to work hard at making himself a starter for City. It's way too early to affirm that he cant, specially when he is only in his first year of contract.

Funny though how once Nasri leaves its like meh he's shite only had a good half season, but when he was still an Arsenal player he was being hyped so big.

Thing is with the City offer too is the money they were offering its hard for most people to turn down, I mean 180k is ridiculous especially for someone who played well for 6months or so.

I don't know about you but if a company was offering me three times more money than what my current company was giving as well as a guarantee from the new company that their plan would be very successful in the future, I'll jump boat with no hesitation and so will all of you.

Football is a job to some people and footballers are employees. Get that stuck in your head and we'll see a drastic decline in the amount of nonsense comments posted after a player leaves someone's favorite club.