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Post by Kick Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:35 pm

Bring him to the Bridge DL4 :bow:

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Post by Shed Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:38 pm

Barrettinator wrote:
Roma sporting director Walter Sabatini has confirmed that Liverpool are looking to sign Italy striker Fabio Borini.
I'm going to throw up.

A reserve player we released on a free is set to become Historypool's marquee signing of 2012 eco smile

In all unbiased seriousness though, I reeeeeally hope the decision to let him go doesn't come back to bite us...
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Post by Abramovich Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:11 pm

Apparently Oscar shares the same agent with Luiz and Piazon banana

Someone said Alex and Rambo too but Graham from WAGNH wasn't sure.
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Post by Shed Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:11 pm

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/chelsea-nathaniel-chalobah-will-be-loaned-to-championship-1138822

So says the Mirror....take it for what you will....
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Post by fatman123 Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:44 pm

Barrettinator wrote:
Roma sporting director Walter Sabatini has confirmed that Liverpool are looking to sign Italy striker Fabio Borini.
I'm going to throw up.

please please please pleeeeeease dont let this happen
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Post by Kick Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:36 am

Oscar looks like he will be joining very shortly. Exciting stuff.

We are going to place another bid for Schurrle too.
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Post by lszanto Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:02 am

Excited about Oscar, looks to be a class player. Who do you guys think will be playing on the right or do we assume Rami will keep his place there? We're going to be oozing talent if we get these guys.
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Post by Kick Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:40 am

I am of the opinion we will play a christmas tree formation:

Cech
Ivanovic Luiz Terry Cole
Ramires Mikel Oscar
HazMat
Torres

2nd:
Hilario
Maicon Hutchinson Cahill Bertrand
Essien Romeu Lampard
Meireles Marin
Sturridge

With Turnbull, Malouda and Ferreira making up the 25.

Oscar and play a slightly more attacking CM role ala Iniesta while Ramires and Mikel provide defensive cover. Cole, Ivanovic, Maicon and Bertrand provide width down the wings with HazMat staying more centrally most of the time.
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Post by lszanto Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:45 am

Yeah looks pretty good. So in that formation is most of the scoring burden on Torres or would we expect HazMat to be chipping in a decent amount.
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Post by Kick Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:54 am

I think Hazard will surprise all with his scoring ability. Ramires will score a few too but overall it will be Torres. If I was to make a rough guess it would be for the goal totals next season it would be:
Torres ~20
Hazard ~15
Lampard ~10
Mata ~10
Ramires ~10
Sturridge ~13

I just drew up how I think their run patterns will work:
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Note: Only Maicon will attack at RB, Ivanovic can stay as Ramires can provide the width.
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Post by Kick Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:03 am

According to the Daily Fail, Barca are considering buying back Romeu, not quotes or scources in the article so it must be bull. Laughing

Doubt he would leave anyway.
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Post by Kick Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:33 am

"Speaking to Calciomercato.it - Envoy for the Inter Sky - Massimiliano Nebuloni has issued some statements regarding market movements of the Nerazzurri. "Maicon was to appear today in retreat - these are his words - but his arrival was delayed until tomorrow. His agent is negotiating with Chelsea."
weird google translate, Here is the original Italian Quote maybe some italian members can Translate it.

"Ai microfoni di Calciomercato.it - l'inviato per l'Inter di Sky - Massimiliano Nebuloni ha rilasciato alcune dichiarazioni riguardo i movimenti di mercato della società nerazzurra. "Maicon doveva presentarsi oggi in ritiro - queste le sue parole - ma il suo arrivo è slittato a domani. Il suo agente sta trattando col Chelsea."

Link to talkchelsea.

I believe he will sign soon.
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Post by iNFINITY9910 Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:32 am

Kick wrote:I think Hazard will surprise all with his scoring ability. Ramires will score a few too but overall it will be Torres. If I was to make a rough guess it would be for the goal totals next season it would be:
Torres ~20
Hazard ~15
Lampard ~10
Mata ~10
Ramires ~10
Sturridge ~13

I just drew up how I think their run patterns will work:
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Make your football formation
Note: Only Maicon will attack at RB, Ivanovic can stay as Ramires can provide the width.

Your runs are interesting, but u should remember that Torres always drifts wide, almost all the time to the left wing. When that happens Hazard/Mata will be going forward into the box.

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Post by Kick Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:45 am

Yeah, I didn't put HazMat's runs in there because I believe they will be all over the place.
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Post by Kick Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:01 pm

Goal reporting Oscar deal.

Must be True :coffee:
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Post by Blue Barrett Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:47 pm

Kick wrote:Goal reporting Oscar deal.

Must be True :coffee:
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Post by Abramovich Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:48 pm

Swap Oscar with Lampard and you will be more accurate imo, look at you all embracing my xmas tree formation you lot hated when I first suggested it Twisted Evil.

Oscar will get a lot of minutes for sure, but there's no way he's walking into the team as a starter ahead of Lampard. Also there's the Mikel/Romeu thing, Mikel did look very good in the pivot, but as the lone holder for me he's always been a bit meh. Romeu was opposite looked great lone holder but shite in pivot, so it will be interesting to see what RDM does if he does play that formation.

There is a lot of information on Oscar positional wise, saying that he's never played deeper. He's played as AM, SS and even out wide, but wit all his attributes I have no doubt he will be able to transition to a deeper position, but then again we have no idea what the club sees his role as.
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Post by Blue Barrett Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:48 pm

Don't know about a 4 year deal. 3 years seems a tad bit much for a 31 year old as well. 2 years is perfect for me.
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Post by Blue Barrett Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:49 pm

I hate the xmas tree formation. :coffee:
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Post by Kick Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:55 pm

Oscar played the under 20 world cup as a CM so he certainly can play there. I believe he can be a Iniesta/Modric type CM.

Romeu certainly is better as a lone DM, I would start him if I was RDM.

And I think 4 years for Maicon is way too much. 3 is perfect.
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Post by Abramovich Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:59 pm

One other thing I've noticed with Oscar is his tendency to play deeper now as opposed to a year ago. In the U20 World Cup last summer, Oscar acted almost like a second striker for much of the tournament

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Guess Ganso can give us more details.
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Post by Kick Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:00 pm

I was told he played the final of the u20 wc as a CM.
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Post by Abramovich Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:04 pm

Dunno if you guys read these, but they are a very good read.

http://brazil.worldcupblog.org/world-cup-2010/the-playmakers-oscar.html

http://brfoot.wordpress.com/2012/07/09/oscar-19-internacional-brazil/
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Post by Kick Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:07 pm

I have read the first one, Will read the second one now.
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Post by Kick Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:16 pm

Both good reads. Second one is smaller and more to the point but I enjoyed both. Thumbs up

He is a real gem, I do hope we sign him.
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Post by Ganso Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:17 pm

Abramovich wrote:
One other thing I've noticed with Oscar is his tendency to play deeper now as opposed to a year ago. In the U20 World Cup last summer, Oscar acted almost like a second striker for much of the tournament

scratch

Guess Ganso can give us more details.


he played as a CM in a 3 man midfield in the u20 WC. he was playing almost a Pirlo-esque DM role vs Spain.he played as a winger/AM in the u20 Copa America in 2010

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