Re: The Cex Appreciation Thread

by Donuts Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:24 pm

Last I checked the madrid fans said he wasn't wc
All the Barca fans just didn't like him, because he didn't fit in our team not that he sucked

by Doc Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:34 pm

Madrid fans also thought Portillo would have been a good forward so let's not use them (us) as a yard stick for judging talent.

Also, Burnley. He played well against Burnley. Fab never had any problems playing well against La Liga's cannon fodder. It's when he was up against tougher opposition that he was found wanting.

Then again, Barcelona's way of football can be quite complex if you are not versatile enough.

by RealGunner Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:46 pm

Gil wrote:It's amazing how great a talent Fabregas is. Probably the best teenage player there's ever been apart from the obvious few (Pele, R9). He was dominating the likes of Viera and Zidane at 18 which is absolutely insane.

He's got the goalscoring ability of Frank Lampard (70 goals over his last 5 seasons which is better than some CM's career total) & the vision/playmaking ability of a true #10, the likes of Messi, Ronaldinho, Socrates, Rui Costa, Maradona, Riquelme, Laudrup, Zidane etc he's as good a passer as most of those players and in some cases even better.

All that's left for him to prove as a player is if he can control and dictate games at the highest levels like greats such as Xavi, Pirlo, Scholes, Matthaus. His current manager certainly believes he can.

For someone constantly described as not being a "Mourinho type player" ad nauseam, he's given him the best platform to make the most of his talents unlike Wenger and his boyhood club. He has a wizard in Hazard that will create space for him and pick him out for goalscoring chances, he's got several runners in Costa, Schurrle, Salah etc & most importantly, he's playing alongside workhorses like Oscar, Matic, Ramires that will cover up gaps and negate his average engine.

More performances like Burnley yesterday and the accolades & trophies will come.

Great post.

by DuringTheWar Tue Aug 19, 2014 7:45 pm

Gil wrote:It's amazing how great a talent Fabregas is. Probably the best teenage player there's ever been apart from the obvious few (Pele, R9). He was dominating the likes of Viera and Zidane at 18 which is absolutely insane.
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That's a huge exaggeration

by Clockwork Orange Tue Aug 19, 2014 7:53 pm

The truth is that Francesc Fabregas could not perform and adapt to the Ducth principle that were instilled at Barcelona. He is playing in a much weaker league now so he looks good. La Liga is where the best players are plying their trade. Gil please refrain from saying such rubbish in the future.

-25% Trolling - JD

by Valkyrja Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:16 pm

Clockwork Orange wrote:The truth is that Francesc Fabregas could not perform and adapt to the Ducth principle that were instilled at Barcelona. He is playing in a much weaker league now so he looks good. La Liga is where the best players are plying their trade. Gil please refrain from saying such rubbish in the future.

-25% Trolling - JD

what a legend

by Hapless_Hans Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:42 pm

who is JD and why does he/she suppress free speech?

by Blue Barrett Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:47 pm

boyzis wrote:the hype chelsea fans create is just incredible. I mean just one game and they start calling him world class which clearly he isnt. What difference does signing him make this is the same club which sold mata and has oscar for the same position but they still couldn't win anything. They will get tired of him sooner I know mourinho his system won't stand such a player. Let the season continue.

Even with your history of ridiculous posts, this might be the worst. Cesc Fabregas isn't world class? Oh really? LOL.

by Valkyrja Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:56 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:who is JD and why does he/she suppress free speech?

Jack Daniels. Real Madrid fan and GL mod aka posseses Batman like powers

by Gil Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:13 pm

6 assists in just 4 games. :bow:

by Valkyrja Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:20 pm

Has always been a CM and not used correctly at Barca. Finally showing his Arsenal form.

by futbol Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:25 pm

Have been saying that he shits on Özil for ages. 3 games for Chelsea and it's accepted as a fact already. Good for everyone, let's move on. :coffee:

by BarcaLearning Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:16 am

Glad to see him do well actually, he always gives his best. Just too bad didnt suit Barca. Thinking it was so strange, barca did so much to get him, but in the end, didnt prove all successful and let him go. He is an assist god, and familiar with the EPL, looking forward to tons more assists from him Smile

by FennecFox7 Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:36 am

when cesc has space against BPL teams hes good. infact hes amazing when you don't pressure him. problem is he has the dribbling and ball retention ability of someone like xabi while playing as a 10. that's his fatal flaw.

perfect against ptb teams though

by harhar11 Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:43 am

Valkyrja wrote:Has always been a CM and not used correctly at Barca. Finally showing his Arsenal form.

At barca he played in every single forward position, including CM.

The problem with him was that he was only great in the first half of the season, having great numbers both in assist and goals. But once January started, he turned into the invisible man.

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Giggity5313 wrote:when cesc has space against BPL teams hes good. infact hes amazing when you don't pressure him. problem is he has the dribbling and ball retention ability of someone like xabi while playing as a 10. that's his fatal flaw.

perfect against ptb teams though

+1. Although don't agree that he is perfect against ptb teams. Maybe when it's smaller teams who parks the bus, but once the bigger teams do it, he tended to be our worst player..

by Gil Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:55 pm

What a shit stat you just posted. Cesc hasn't scored a single goal in a Chelsea shirt yet he's been the 2nd or 3rd best player in the League so far.

Anyway, selling the best passer in the World for just £26m has to be the biggest gaffe of the summer. At least Madrid got a kings ransom on Di Maria.

by futbol Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:00 pm

Cesc joins Chelsea. Mourinho's defensive fortress turns into a team that concedes 6 goals in 4 games.

Cesc leaves Barca. Defensive joke team Barca turns into a team that is yet to concede a meaningful shot on target after 3 games.

by Donuts Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:00 pm

Madrid sold their best player in the team, we sold the cancer of ours i'd take 10m for him a season earlier if it meant keeping thiago.. glad he left now before he ruins another youth's career.
he's an elite player just has no way to fit into our team.

by Gil Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:07 pm

Agreed, far and away the best player on the team after Messi in terms of talent but a terrible fit in an outdated system.

Has been outstanding now that he's playing with two players on the same wavelength (Costa, Hazard) with exceptional defensive cover in Ramires, Oscar and Matic.

Again 6 assists in just 4 games. Well on his way to breaking the record tally (20 by Henry in the 02/03 season).

by Valkyrja Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:26 pm

Donuts wrote:Madrid sold their best player in the team, we sold the cancer of ours i'd take 10m for him a season earlier if it meant keeping thiago.. glad he left now before he ruins another youth's career.
he's an elite player just has no way to fit into our team.

best player ?

by Gil Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:54 pm

BUT BUT BUT he can't play CM. rofl

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by Donuts Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:57 pm

CM isn't only about passes.. if that were the case Pique would be the best cm in the world.

by Gil Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:00 pm

Donuts wrote:CM isn't only about passes.. if that were the case Pique would be the best cm in the world.

Rakitic has replaced him well why are you crying here? Fabregas is obviously by far the much better player but Raki was a better fit.

And he absolutely ran the show today. We haven't had a player dictate games like that since Ballack left.

by futbol Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:04 pm

Well, only 40 passes short of Alonso's 174 passes today then.

by Donuts Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:06 pm

I'm not crying just stating the obvious that one stat doesn't represent how good someone is in a position, to be a good cm it takes much more then that..
don't you agree?

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:13 pm

Gil wrote:BUT BUT BUT he can't play CM.

Against anyone half decent no he can't, there's a difference between playing a position well and being able to play it.

It's not a coincidence that since he joined you that you have been a lot weaker defensively and Barca have got a lot stronger defensively.

Mourinho has already seen this by playing him behind Costa against anyone decent and he'll to continue to do so..... Hell you said yourself that during Everton he was constantly dispossessed in the midfield lol, that doesn't happen to good CMs.

He's a fantastic player but let's not paint him out to be something he isn't, even when he plays CM his biggest contributions come in and around the box because by nature that's what type of player he is.

TL;DR Stahp.

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