Why do Manchester United inflate the prices of youth so much ?

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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:50 pm

bhends wrote:What a bizarre thread...

United pay high prices because they know who they want and they don't let money get stop them from getting them...

I hardly thought that was a secret

What's the problem with this system again?

If he had to do it again im sure SAF would pay an even higher fee for all those players if thats what it took to get them to Old Trafford...


That's just it...I'm not saying there is a problem nor am I saying it's wrong because it's obviously proven successful.

I'm just asking why he would need it per say...considering the status of himself and the club. They are hardly unknown, so I'm just wondering why they don't market that more; to a 18 year old, the fact he got to play there is amazing...I'm sure he'd play for free (exaggeration of course).

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Post by Swanhends Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:52 pm

JuvenelCuore wrote:I'm just asking why he would need it per say...considering the status of himself and the club. They are hardly unknown, so I'm just wondering why they don't market that more; to a 18 year old, the fact he got to play there is amazing...I'm sure he'd play for free (exaggeration of course).

Why he would need what? To pay high prices?

Because thats what it costs to bring in top talent?

Am I missing something here?
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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:56 pm

bhends wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:I'm just asking why he would need it per say...considering the status of himself and the club. They are hardly unknown, so I'm just wondering why they don't market that more; to a 18 year old, the fact he got to play there is amazing...I'm sure he'd play for free (exaggeration of course).

Why he would need what? To pay high prices?

Because thats what it costs to bring in top talent?

Am I missing something here?

This is how/why I brought in Wenger though...and countless others who avoid that in scouting unknown youngsters.
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Post by Swanhends Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:00 pm

JuvenelCuore wrote:This is how/why I brought in Wenger though...and countless others who avoid that in scouting unknown youngsters.

Overpay for youngsters and win more trophies than you can fit in your house...

....Spend all your time looking for diamonds in the rough and fail at winning the Carling Cup against Birmingham
(But hey, at least you made 15-20mil from selling off your most recent star!)



Were really debating this?
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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:03 pm

bhends wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:This is how/why I brought in Wenger though...and countless others who avoid that in scouting unknown youngsters.

Overpay for youngsters and win more trophies than you can fit in your house...

....Spend all your time looking for diamonds in the rough and fail at winning the Carling Cup against Birmingham
(But hey, at least you made 15-20mil from selling off your most recent star!)



Were really debating this?

Yes, we are. Trophies aren't everything to be honest. I'd rather have a system replicable to that of Arsene Wenger than spend a ton of money on transfers (not saying Man Utd do, simply giving a generality).

What you're implying is that Manchester United bought their success, when in actuality, I don't think they did so clearly you are not being truthful nor accurate.
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Post by Swanhends Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:10 pm

JuvenelCuore wrote:Yes, we are. Trophies aren't everything to be honest. I'd rather have a system replicable to that of Arsene Wenger than spend a ton of money on transfers (not saying Man Utd do, simply giving a generality).

What you're implying is that Manchester United bought their success, when in actuality, I don't think they did so clearly you are not being truthful nor accurate.

Wake up. Every team buys their success.

Some teams pay more than others, but that doesn't change the fact that they buy it.
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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:11 pm

bhends wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:Yes, we are. Trophies aren't everything to be honest. I'd rather have a system replicable to that of Arsene Wenger than spend a ton of money on transfers (not saying Man Utd do, simply giving a generality).

What you're implying is that Manchester United bought their success, when in actuality, I don't think they did so clearly you are not being truthful nor accurate.

Wake up. Every team buys their success.

Some teams pay more than others, but that doesn't change the fact that they buy it.

Depends how you define "buy" but I suppose, but once again I was never refuting Manchester United, simply asking the necessity. Some can't show respect to genuine claims and it's my mistake. #closethread
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Post by IAmManUnited Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:27 pm

I dont understand the OP here, compare to other big clubs, we hardly spend big, berbatov was the biggest at 30 and that was quite shocking. Rooney was worth more than every penny we bought him for.
So was Ronaldo, Nani, Smalling, Hernandez. Hernandez is well worth over 20 million now, Nani too, Ronaldo sold for 100 million.

I mean with every club, they have their policies, juve are more dependent on not getting the biggest stars but players that are playing their best roles in their respective leagues before hand and thats respectable but at one time, uu have to see that their transfer system is not getting them any silverware.

We spend what we have to because the coach can see the potential of the players before hand and oh well if they dont make it like bebe, u win some u lose some, thats life.
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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:34 pm

IAmManUnited wrote:I dont understand the OP here, compare to other big clubs, we hardly spend big, berbatov was the biggest at 30 and that was quite shocking. Rooney was worth more than every penny we bought him for.
So was Ronaldo, Nani, Smalling, Hernandez. Hernandez is well worth over 20 million now, Nani too, Ronaldo sold for 100 million.

I mean with every club, they have their policies, juve are more dependent on not getting the biggest stars but players that are playing their best roles in their respective leagues before hand and thats respectable but at one time, uu have to see that their transfer system is not getting them any silverware.

We spend what we have to because the coach can see the potential of the players before hand and oh well if they dont make it like bebe, u win some u lose some, thats life.

Mate you are really judging me wrongly here. I am making the point that at the time he transfered youngsters, they were not necessary worth that. They have doubled, tripled, etc. now, but Fergie could obviously not foresee that. That is what I'm trying to say...I'm not necessarily deeming it as ruining the market or anti-football, just questioning why Fergie sometimes pays a lot when he has the historical background of the club and the marketability of himself and the club at his disposal.
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Post by IAmManUnited Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:58 pm

Oh yea, i guess ur right? IDK, cause hes said a couple times we have the money to buy, but its the quality thats not there...

Transfer prices have gone up amazingly in the last decade, even players like neymar are costing 25 million, but thats where this era is heading
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Post by JuvenelCuore Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:06 am

IAmManUnited wrote:Oh yea, i guess ur right? IDK, cause hes said a couple times we have the money to buy, but its the quality thats not there...

Transfer prices have gone up amazingly in the last decade, even players like neymar are costing 25 million, but thats where this era is heading

I wasn't trying to jab or say it wasn't right because obviously, if Fergie did sell guys like Ferdinand, etc. when he had a chance to, he'd probably make a ton of money...

But I agree with the last bit, and admittedly, the biggest transfers you're making are British players, who as we all know come at a hefty asking price.
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Post by IAmManUnited Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:08 am

Plus the new 7+4 rule comin into play...the more english, the better
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Post by JuvenelCuore Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:11 am

IAmManUnited wrote:Plus the new 7+4 rule comin into play...the more english, the better

Is that why they've gone up ? I mean because the EPL is what ? 72% foreign and this new rule was a kick in the teeth for most, so now they're scrambling to get some British talent to adhere to it ? Is that why ?
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Post by IAmManUnited Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:14 am

Yea most def, besides being an english club, its more traditional to have a team composed of english players, like compared to say inter, who bleed foreginers which theres nothing wrong with
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Post by JuvenelCuore Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:17 am

Makes sense...glad to see the rule is in place, it reminds me of a less-extreme form of the Serie A legislation in the late 1990's and early 2000's I believe which all but banned foreigners from the league.

...though it did result in arguably the best Italian national team at the 2002 World Cup.
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Post by gkamtu Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:25 am

they like low price for the one who later become a star... Imo
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