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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:47 pm

his choice?? why??? you wondering??


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Post by ToEy Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:48 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:his choice?? why??? you wondering??


You speak as if there was no outside interference when they whole world knew otherwise...but whatever floats your boat boy....

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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:53 pm

we didnt tell him to sign the contract at gun point now did we??

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Post by jibers Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:59 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:
The Franchise wrote:You responded to my post, accusing Che and Jibbers of being fanboys.

If they are fanboys and therefore wrong, deabte it.

You cant.

I dont care about your opinion, so stop telling me about diving and other nonsense. I dont have to respond to your opinions or comment about them.

You did respond on Jibbers and CheĀ“s opinions, so debate them.

But its obvious you cant, or you would have by now.



all i said they were barca closet fanboys, and that before i even read the thread lol

and when i read jibers post, all i could make out of it was barca dominating europe therefore understandably they are accused of diving and then giving us examples of one-offs from some EPL teams... am i right smartass

now, i then gave you an example of us dominating were we WERENT accused of diving and playacting

you then just post the same crap, but in different words as if thatll make any difference

point is i have given a counter example to jibers post and none of you have been bothered to answer it, other than the same ol' read this read that blah blah hurp friggin duurrp

/coonvo

however you barca fans will protect the divers, play acter and ra*ists in your team the whole world knows what a cheating club you are and how most of your titles shouldnt even have been there in the first place

One off examples? How many times did Ronaldo dive for us? Hell he was known as one of the biggest divers in Europe, was he not? Ironically Rooney dived to get a penalty against arsenal to end their unbeaten run. Not to be picky but the galacticos where not in the league of thid team. Your present RM team is better than the galacticos. They won the Cl but they didn't win the league, how is that domination? It's just a fact that in terms of trophies, no team in the last 20 years has won as many trophies in the same period. That is a fact. I do agree with the racism bit. Will never forget the classico in 98 when Hierro got sent off and the ref was a disgrace, and R. Carlos got a torrent of racial abuse. It's not just Barcelona though, it is Spain in general, Spain are still in the phase where England were in the 80s in terms of race relations, summed up by Luis Arogones's racial abuse of Henry. I also blame refreeing standards in La Liga. They enable what happens and actually compliment Barcas football. The fact is hala, every team cheats, instead of looking at Barca alone I think that the Spanish FA should shoulder some blame.
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Post by Doc Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:03 pm

The Spanish FA should shoulder a lot of blame, not just some...
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Post by che Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:17 pm

The Franchise wrote:You responded to my post, accusing Che and Jibbers of being fanboys.

If they are fanboys and therefore wrong, deabte it.

You cant.

well in his defence, halamadrid can't really debate me since he's on my ignore list Laughing
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Post by The Franchise Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:24 pm

Wish I wasnt an admin and I could do that same. Good grief.
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Post by Zealous Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:40 pm

The Franchise wrote:Jibbers and Che, two non Barca fans have clearly owned this thread.

But as always, nobody ever tries to respond to these types of statements and opinions, nobody debates them..all because there is no debating them.

Instead, the usual suspects will continue to churn out garbage and stick with that.




Come on of course it's debatable, I just don't feel like debating it because it'll feel like I'm Bill Murray in "Groundhog's Day".
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Post by kiranr Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:41 pm

Just ignore Halamadrid. He has been posting nonsense for sometime now!
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Post by Zealous Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:50 pm

halamadrid has his moments LOL
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Post by The Franchise Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:56 pm

Zealous wrote:
The Franchise wrote:Jibbers and Che, two non Barca fans have clearly owned this thread.

But as always, nobody ever tries to respond to these types of statements and opinions, nobody debates them..all because there is no debating them.

Instead, the usual suspects will continue to churn out garbage and stick with that.




Come on of course it's debatable, I just don't feel like debating it because it'll feel like I'm Bill Murray in "Groundhog's Day".

Right.

This is not the first time what Jibbers and Che have said (roughly) has been said, I have heard that same mantra for literally years.

And not once have people rationally argued those points, instead we get

"Farca, you dive many"

"Sprinkler, DNA...humble and respectful"

Another other assorted crap.

What those two wrote was very reasonable and instead of debate, its completely ignored with the aforementioned crap being the majority. As shown but a few posts later with hala.
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Post by Jack Daniels Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:00 pm

Barca are cheats who results to diving to win. albino

And Cristiano Ronaldo is the best player in the world.
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Post by kiranr Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:04 pm

Jack Daniels wrote:Barca are cheats who results to diving to win. albino

And Cristiano Ronaldo is the best player in the world.

No. Just No. Messi is the best player in the world. Very Happy
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Post by The Franchise Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:06 pm

Jack Daniels wrote:Barca are cheats who results to diving to win. albino

And Cristiano Ronaldo is the best player in the world.

The first line, I might of believed.

But coming from you, that 2nd line, now I know your talking crap lol
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Post by Jack Daniels Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:12 pm

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Jack Daniels wrote:Barca are cheats who results to diving to win. albino

And Cristiano Ronaldo is the best player in the world.

The first line, I might of believed.

But coming from you, that 2nd line, now I know your talking crap lol
Damn I'm caught. banana

Btw Glad to hear that you still know me lol
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:12 pm

kiranr wrote:
Jack Daniels wrote:Barca are cheats who results to diving to win. albino

And Cristiano Ronaldo is the best player in the world.

No. Just No. Messi is the best player in the world. Very Happy

Poor mans Balotelli if we are honest......
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Post by Dnmac4 Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:13 pm

Look, I don't know why people have such an issue with this. It's really very simple to understand.

If you play a clean game against Barca they will play a clean game with you. Did you see United complaining about unfair play or diving or anything else in either of there games with Barca? No because they went there to play football not rugby.

Some teams think they way to beat Barca is to systematically foul them and borderline injure them. I don't know why people expect Barca to sit down and just take it when teams do this as no other big club would either.

It has been shown time and again if you respect them they will respect you.

So the answer to the question is they are the same team they have always been but through the wining they have produced unrealistic expectations as they are only human and also produced a group of people who look for any reason to condemn any little thing they can find to slam them.
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Post by The Franchise Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:14 pm

Jack Daniels wrote:
The Franchise wrote:
Jack Daniels wrote:Barca are cheats who results to diving to win. albino

And Cristiano Ronaldo is the best player in the world.

The first line, I might of believed.

But coming from you, that 2nd line, now I know your talking crap lol
Damn I'm caught. banana

Btw Glad to hear that you still know me lol

LOL

Skype aint working for me, dont know whats up. Working on it.
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Post by Zealous Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:17 pm

The Franchise wrote:
Zealous wrote:
The Franchise wrote:Jibbers and Che, two non Barca fans have clearly owned this thread.

But as always, nobody ever tries to respond to these types of statements and opinions, nobody debates them..all because there is no debating them.

Instead, the usual suspects will continue to churn out garbage and stick with that.




Come on of course it's debatable, I just don't feel like debating it because it'll feel like I'm Bill Murray in "Groundhog's Day".

Right.

This is not the first time what Jibbers and Che have said (roughly) has been said, I have heard that same mantra for literally years.

And not once have people rationally argued those points, instead we get

"Farca, you dive many"

"Sprinkler, DNA...humble and respectful"

Another other assorted crap.

What those two wrote was very reasonable and instead of debate, its completely ignored with the aforementioned crap being the majority. As shown but a few posts later with hala.

Not once was this rationally argued? I really must be in groundhog's day because I remember it happening quite a few times.

Anyway I'm not defending the circlejerk responses. But those are never really serious at least I don't take them seriously.

I've seen Barca, their players (and their coach):

1) Pretend their bones are broken only to do jumping jacks once the opponent got carded.

2) Provoke other players by saying hurtful things.

3) Throw the ball away regularly when the other team has a free kick, throw in etc.

4) Pretend they got hit in the face to fool the ref into sending the opponent off.

5) Try to start fights (of course only to play the victims later)

6) Sucker punch players.

7) Have their ball boys disappear when the other team is chasing the result.

8 ) Turn the sprinklers on when they get knocked out of a tournament while the other team were still celebrating.

9) Kick balls straight at the fans in opponent's stadiums.

10) Dive for penalties, fouls etc.

11) Gang up on the ref and telling him what to do. (This increases the more and more Barca don't look like they can win)

But hey what would I know I'm a jealous fan boy who hates Barca because of their success Rolling Eyes. Their crappy attitude clearly has nothing to do with it.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:18 pm

Zeal is mad.

Spoiler:
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Post by Jack Daniels Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:18 pm

@The Manchise
Haven't been much on Skype either. I was busy the whole month.

Anyway.

Carry on lmao.
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Post by Zealous Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:22 pm

I ain't even mad.

I'm just trying to put a point across. While I agree some hate that goes Barca's way is "haters gonna hate" hate. There are people out there that don't like them for other reasons.

Obviously these things are magnified because Barca are at the top of the totem pole but really the idea that someone doesn't care about what Barca won and dislikes them because of what they have been doing for a while now shouldn't be so far fetched.
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Post by kiranr Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:27 pm

Zealous wrote:

Not once was this rationally argued? I really must be in groundhog's day because I remember it happening quite a few times.

Anyway I'm not defending the circlejerk responses. But those are never really serious at least I don't take them seriously.

I've seen Barca, their players (and their coach):

1) Pretend their bones are broken only to do jumping jacks once the opponent got carded.

Madrid does this!

2) Provoke other players by saying hurtful things.

Madrid does this. Although, i dont know about provoke.

3) Throw the ball away regularly when the other team has a free kick, throw in etc.

Many teams, including Madrid, do this.

4) Pretend they got hit in the face to fool the ref into sending the opponent off.

Same as 1.

5) Try to start fights (of course only to play the victims later)

Madrid does the same.

6) Sucker punch players.

Madrid does the same.

7) Have their ball boys disappear when the other team is chasing the result.

Madrid does the same.

8 ) Turn the sprinklers on when they get knocked out of a tournament while the other team were still celebrating.

9) Kick balls straight at the fans in opponent's stadiums.

10) Dive for penalties, fouls etc.

Madrid does the same.

11) Gang up on the ref and telling him what to do. (This increases the more and more Barca don't look like they can win)

Many teams do this and i have seen Madrid do it too.

But hey what would I know I'm a jealous fan boy who hates Barca because of their success Rolling Eyes. Their crappy attitude clearly has nothing to do with it.

Conclusion: You must hate Madrid not because of their success (oh wait..), but because of their crappy attitude.
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Post by Dnmac4 Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:27 pm

You do know I could pull up the list you just made and point to other teams who have done all of these things especially Madrid.

I think what people need to understand is that a lot of the things on that list are problems in the hispanic footballing culture and not things that Barcelona invented or are the only offenders in doing these things.

Again a lot of those things on the list is how these players have grown up and been told to do since they were young.

Why people blame Barca alone for this stuff just shows how much you don't watch any La Liga or South American Football and if you do watch it then really your just hating on Barca.
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Post by VanDeezNuts Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:37 pm

i just dont see any evidence that madrid does any of those things apart from select players diving and starting fights which accounts for very little of that list.

would love to see evidence of madrid's ball boys not giving players the ball..

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Post by Zealous Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:40 pm

"Other teams do it" is and will never be a good counter argument. Now it's you who are avoiding debate. (Franchise conformation bias FTW!!)

Also Barca just simply do it so much that's it has gotten unbearable. Seriously if you guys can't notice how much more Barcelona do it then there is no point to debate it.

I've called out Madrid players out on numerous occasions saying I was not happy with certain conduct.

Cules on the other hand (who also pretend they know everything there is to know about Jose Mourinho's personality without even knowing him) pretend they can't understand what is coming out of car radio thief Biscuits and wanna be bad boy Cesc's mouths when everyone else can.

As for the "you only hate on Barca" thing, that's not true. I lost count of the number of times I slated Sevilla, Pathetico and Levante (seriously dirty team) so there goes that argument out the window.
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