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deezydeez wrote:i just dont see any evidence that madrid does any of those things apart from select players diving and starting fights which accounts for very little of that list.

would love to see evidence of madrid's ball boys not giving players the ball..

deezydeez wrote:i just dont see any evidence that madrid does any of those things apart from select players diving and starting fights which accounts for very little of that list.

would love to see evidence of madrid's ball boys not giving players the ball..

Zealous wrote:"Other teams do it" is and will never be a good counter argument. Now it's you who are avoiding debate. (Franchise conformation bias FTW!!)

Also Barca just simply do it so much that's it has gotten unbearable. Seriously if you guys can't notice how much more Barcelona do it then there is no point to debate it.

I've called out Madrid players out on numerous occasions saying I was not happy with certain conduct.

Cules on the other hand (who also pretend they know everything there is to know about Jose Mourinho's personality without even knowing him) pretend they can't understand what is coming out of car radio thief Biscuits and wanna be bad boy Cesc's mouths when everyone else can.

As for the "you only hate on Barca" thing, that's not true. I lost count of the number of times I slated Sevilla, Pathetico and Levante (seriously dirty team) so there goes that argument out the window.

dnmac4 wrote:Also, a bunch of these acts on the list are the act of one person. I mean you act like the entire Barca team got behind the sprinklers and each had a go at turning them on.

Pepe violently kicked a player in the back while he was down on the ground and got suspended for 10 games, it was one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen. The difference is that people were condemning PEPE not Madrid as anyone with a brain in there head knows he was not ordered to do this and it's not a reflection on MAdrid as a football club.

But when it comes to Barca the acts of individuals reflect the whole club because people hate them. It's that simple.

kiranr wrote:

Zealous wrote:"Other teams do it" is and will never be a good counter argument. Now it's you who are avoiding debate. (Franchise conformation bias FTW!!)

Also Barca just simply do it so much that's it has gotten unbearable. Seriously if you guys can't notice how much more Barcelona do it then there is no point to debate it.

I've called out Madrid players out on numerous occasions saying I was not happy with certain conduct.

Cules on the other hand (who also pretend they know everything there is to know about Jose Mourinho's personality without even knowing him) pretend they can't understand what is coming out of car radio thief Biscuits and wanna be bad boy Cesc's mouths when everyone else can.

As for the "you only hate on Barca" thing, that's not true. I lost count of the number of times I slated Sevilla, Pathetico and Levante (seriously dirty team) so there goes that argument out the window.

Barcelona do it more against Madrid in the same way Madrid does so much more against us.

It is not a question of calling out the players, but a question of criticizing the whole club for the actions of a few. Madrid fans (who also pretend Guardiola is being humble to put on an act without even knowing him) pretend Madrid plays rough to counter Barcelona's diving and it has nothing to do with gaining an edge unfairly.

Most Madrid fans hate only Barcelona in this forum.

dnmac4 wrote:

deezydeez wrote:i just dont see any evidence that madrid does any of those things apart from select players diving and starting fights which accounts for very little of that list.

would love to see evidence of madrid's ball boys not giving players the ball..

I'm sorry but I can't find another word to say about this post other then it's the dumbest post I've ever seen. You saying this makes it so obvious you don't watch La Liga. Every time a small team in La Liga is beating or tied with a big team there ball boys disappear. Mou has even complained about this and it's been raised as in issue by La Liga in the past. Last year when you lost to Preciado's team is a perfect example but again either you are so short sighted you can't see past how insane you are being or again you just don't watch the games.

Zealous wrote:

The Franchise wrote:

Zealous wrote:

The Franchise wrote:Jibbers and Che, two non Barca fans have clearly owned this thread.

But as always, nobody ever tries to respond to these types of statements and opinions, nobody debates them..all because there is no debating them.

Instead, the usual suspects will continue to churn out garbage and stick with that.

Come on of course it's debatable, I just don't feel like debating it because it'll feel like I'm Bill Murray in "Groundhog's Day".

Right.

This is not the first time what Jibbers and Che have said (roughly) has been said, I have heard that same mantra for literally years.

And not once have people rationally argued those points, instead we get

"Farca, you dive many"

"Sprinkler, DNA...humble and respectful"

Another other assorted crap.

What those two wrote was very reasonable and instead of debate, its completely ignored with the aforementioned crap being the majority. As shown but a few posts later with hala.

Not once was this rationally argued? I really must be in groundhog's day because I remember it happening quite a few times.

Anyway I'm not defending the circlejerk responses. But those are never really serious at least I don't take them seriously.

I've seen Barca, their players (and their coach):

1) Pretend their bones are broken only to do jumping jacks once the opponent got carded.

2) Provoke other players by saying hurtful things.

3) Throw the ball away regularly when the other team has a free kick, throw in etc.

4) Pretend they got hit in the face to fool the ref into sending the opponent off.

5) Try to start fights (of course only to play the victims later)

6) Sucker punch players.

7) Have their ball boys disappear when the other team is chasing the result.

8 ) Turn the sprinklers on when they get knocked out of a tournament while the other team were still celebrating.

9) Kick balls straight at the fans in opponent's stadiums.

10) Dive for penalties, fouls etc.

11) Gang up on the ref and telling him what to do. (This increases the more and more Barca don't look like they can win)

But hey what would I know I'm a jealous fan boy who hates Barca because of their success . Their crappy attitude clearly has nothing to do with it.

Zealous wrote:

dnmac4 wrote:Also, a bunch of these acts on the list are the act of one person. I mean you act like the entire Barca team got behind the sprinklers and each had a go at turning them on.

Pepe violently kicked a player in the back while he was down on the ground and got suspended for 10 games, it was one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen. The difference is that people were condemning PEPE not Madrid as anyone with a brain in there head knows he was not ordered to do this and it's not a reflection on MAdrid as a football club.

But when it comes to Barca the acts of individuals reflect the whole club because people hate them. It's that simple.

The sprinkler thing may not be the player's fault but Valdes tried to stop players celebrating so it's not like the whole sore loser attitude wasn't there.

As for Pepe if him kicking Casquero (who got up two seconds later and took the freakin penalty he dived to get) was one of the most disgusting things you have ever seen you need to check out the "2 year old Chinese girl" thread in off topic. You saying people only call out Pepe is ludicrous. Some of your fans call us Stoke FFS (even though we've been playing you on equal ground for the past couple of games).

Anyway you are right I shouldn't hate on Barca the entity just these individuals who have done something that has left me less than impressed:

Guardiola, Alves, Valdes, Cesc, Biscuits, Pedro, Mascherano, Xavi, Iniesta, Pique, Villa, Messi, Pinto etc.

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Zealous wrote:LOL, alex seriously LOL.

Anyway hope this reminds Franchise that it takes two to tango. For every halamadrid there is an alex

dnmac4 wrote:

Zealous wrote:

dnmac4 wrote:Also, a bunch of these acts on the list are the act of one person. I mean you act like the entire Barca team got behind the sprinklers and each had a go at turning them on.

Pepe violently kicked a player in the back while he was down on the ground and got suspended for 10 games, it was one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen. The difference is that people were condemning PEPE not Madrid as anyone with a brain in there head knows he was not ordered to do this and it's not a reflection on MAdrid as a football club.

But when it comes to Barca the acts of individuals reflect the whole club because people hate them. It's that simple.

The sprinkler thing may not be the player's fault but Valdes tried to stop players celebrating so it's not like the whole sore loser attitude wasn't there.

As for Pepe if him kicking Casquero (who got up two seconds later and took the freakin penalty he dived to get) was one of the most disgusting things you have ever seen you need to check out the "2 year old Chinese girl" thread in off topic. You saying people only call out Pepe is ludicrous. Some of your fans call us Stoke FFS (even though we've been playing you on equal ground for the past couple of games).

Anyway you are right I shouldn't hate on Barca the entity just these individuals who have done something that has left me less than impressed:

Guardiola, Alves, Valdes, Cesc, Biscuits, Pedro, Mascherano, Xavi, Iniesta, Pique, Villa, Messi, Pinto etc.

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Yes. I could break down Madrid in much the same way. Arbeloa- tackling with the intent to injure, Marcelo-tackling with the intent to injure Cesc, Ronaldo-where do I start? Lets just go with the "Milan incident", Pepe-Getafe Incident and many others, Di MAria-Worst Diver in the world, Xabi Alonso- Crowding Ref and I could use a host of other Madrid players. Ramos- Putting his hands on opponents (puyol eyc), Carvalho-terrible tackling with intent to injure, YOUR COACH-Punching another coach and showing no respect to other lower level coach's.

You see the difference between you and me is I don't hate these players. I chalk a lot of it to the way they were brought up with the diving and crowding the ref and play acting. These things are a staple in Hispanic football as well as "do whatever it takes to win". But Barca are on top and people like you like to pretend they invented this stuff and are the only team in football who do it.

Look at the Overbo game against Chelsea, why weren't people condemning Drogba for trying to kill the ref and the whole team crowding the ref, have you ever watched an Italian league or national team game, in Italy it takes about 5 minutes to take a free kick after all the ref crowding and posturing and arguing about ball placement and pushing and shoving to gain in advantage in the box before the ref blows his whistle etc etc. These acts have been going on for decades but of course it's all Barca's fault. It;s just so short sighted.

alexjanosik wrote:

Zealous wrote:LOL, alex seriously LOL.

Anyway hope this reminds Franchise that it takes two to tango. For every halamadrid there is an alex

I just pointed out the hypocrisy of a Stoke fan.
And you got no other comeback.
Jog it on son.

Zealous wrote:

dnmac4 wrote:

Zealous wrote:

dnmac4 wrote:Also, a bunch of these acts on the list are the act of one person. I mean you act like the entire Barca team got behind the sprinklers and each had a go at turning them on.

Pepe violently kicked a player in the back while he was down on the ground and got suspended for 10 games, it was one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen. The difference is that people were condemning PEPE not Madrid as anyone with a brain in there head knows he was not ordered to do this and it's not a reflection on MAdrid as a football club.

But when it comes to Barca the acts of individuals reflect the whole club because people hate them. It's that simple.

The sprinkler thing may not be the player's fault but Valdes tried to stop players celebrating so it's not like the whole sore loser attitude wasn't there.

As for Pepe if him kicking Casquero (who got up two seconds later and took the freakin penalty he dived to get) was one of the most disgusting things you have ever seen you need to check out the "2 year old Chinese girl" thread in off topic. You saying people only call out Pepe is ludicrous. Some of your fans call us Stoke FFS (even though we've been playing you on equal ground for the past couple of games).

Anyway you are right I shouldn't hate on Barca the entity just these individuals who have done something that has left me less than impressed:

Guardiola, Alves, Valdes, Cesc, Biscuits, Pedro, Mascherano, Xavi, Iniesta, Pique, Villa, Messi, Pinto etc.

....

Yes. I could break down Madrid in much the same way. Arbeloa- tackling with the intent to injure, Marcelo-tackling with the intent to injure Cesc, Ronaldo-where do I start? Lets just go with the "Milan incident", Pepe-Getafe Incident and many others, Di MAria-Worst Diver in the world, Xabi Alonso- Crowding Ref and I could use a host of other Madrid players. Ramos- Putting his hands on opponents (puyol eyc), Carvalho-terrible tackling with intent to injure, YOUR COACH-Punching another coach and showing no respect to other lower level coach's.

You see the difference between you and me is I don't hate these players. I chalk a lot of it to the way they were brought up with the diving and crowding the ref and play acting. These things are a staple in Hispanic football as well as "do whatever it takes to win". But Barca are on top and people like you like to pretend they invented this stuff and are the only team in football who do it.

Look at the Overbo game against Chelsea, why weren't people condemning Drogba for trying to kill the ref and the whole team crowding the ref, have you ever watched an Italian league or national team game, in Italy it takes about 5 minutes to take a free kick after all the ref crowding and posturing and arguing about ball placement and pushing and shoving to gain in advantage in the box before the ref blows his whistle etc etc. These acts have been going on for decades but of course it's all Barca's fault. It;s just so short sighted.

"Intent to injure?" please you aren't in their heads. Just say potentially dangerous tackles. It's more accurate and it still puts your point across. Trying to prove intent is as silly as it gets.

The clearest offenders from a Barca point of view would be Ramos, Marcelo, Ronaldo and Di Maria. These are guys we have all called out from a Madrid point of view, in short we are aware that they have done one or two dumb things we didn't like. Not once have Cules said they thought Barca conduct was bad or even wrong.

LOL @ you saying Xabi has done anything worst possible example. As for what Jose did, it was a childish poke that was very unbecoming but it was Vilnova that punched Jose not the other way round. Childish silliness all round and I'll raise my hand and say I was very disappointed in Jose.

Anyway I think I get your point about culture but really that's no excuse IMO.

Zealous wrote:

alexjanosik wrote:

Zealous wrote:LOL, alex seriously LOL.

Anyway hope this reminds Franchise that it takes two to tango. For every halamadrid there is an alex

I just pointed out the hypocrisy of a Stoke fan.
And you got no other comeback.
Jog it on son.

Banging my head on a brick wall makes my head hurt. The only way I win is to stop banging my head on the brick wall.

king_alex10 wrote:settle down, girls

kiranr wrote:

king_alex10 wrote:settle down, girls

Go on, give us an opinion....

Seppuku wrote:


Which part of their history wasn't built on favorable refereeing and cheating?