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Post by Brigate Rossonere Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:38 am

sciacca wrote:Woh what? Pepe I would understand, but Marchisio is Mediocore? The most consistent CM in Italy? Aquilani? Are you kidding me? :coffee:

Maybe Marchisio isn't mediocre, but I thought that you think Aquilani should not even by purchased by Juve. Lol Sciacca, you shouldn't change your opinion just because it better suits one topic than another.... Many better midfielders in mediocre teams than Aquilani.

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Post by Brigate Rossonere Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:40 am

PerSempreJuve wrote:
1) This year, in the game against Ireland, the most recent one, Prandelli, Trapattoni, and his assistant Tardelli all played for Juventus. Buffon, Cassani (youth product), Barzaletti (ex-Juventus), Bonucci, Chiellini, Marchisio, Matri, Criscito (youth product) were all on the bench for the Italian team.

2) Because remember: we wouldn't have to rely on "mediocracy" if the other teams like Milan (AC and Inter) provided alternatives.

1) I like how you put in Cassani and Criscito and say they are youth products but then put in Matri who is Milan's youth product :coffee:

2) Well that's just not true...
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Post by Brigate Rossonere Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:45 am

sciacca wrote:ItalJuve, I wonder why they call us that.

Because you don't play in Europe? :coffee:
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Post by Brigate Rossonere Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:47 am

PerSempreJuve wrote:For every foreigner on Milan I can name two Italians better in the position of the player.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHA

Ok, Ibra and Pato as ST, Silva as CB.
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Post by JuvenelCuore Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:04 am

@Brigate Rossonere wrote:
sciacca wrote:Woh what? Pepe I would understand, but Marchisio is Mediocore? The most consistent CM in Italy? Aquilani? Are you kidding me? :coffee:

Maybe Marchisio isn't mediocre, but I thought that you think Aquilani should not even by purchased by Juve. Lol Sciacca, you shouldn't change your opinion just because it better suits one topic than another.... Many better midfielders in mediocre teams than Aquilani.

I'm not understanding the relationship here between price and talent. If Messi were available to me for 300M Euro, I would not pay it despite the fact that he is undoubtably the greatest player on earth.

Aquilani was simply too expensive, simple.
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Post by Milantildeath Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:09 am

I think Aquilani would fit perfectly into our mid, our fitness center and MilanLab are top knotch and I'm sure will take care of Aquilani. At Juve last season he was fairly fit for his standards. I think he can become very important for us if we actually sign him. If Mr. X plays in Italy all fingers are pointing at Aquilani, Hamsik and Montolivo. I'd also like to swoop on Nocerino as well, to me is a mixture of Ambrosini and Gattuso, and that's a player that can play for us for a long time.
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Post by Brigate Rossonere Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:17 am

PerSempreJuve wrote:
@Brigate Rossonere wrote:
sciacca wrote:Woh what? Pepe I would understand, but Marchisio is Mediocore? The most consistent CM in Italy? Aquilani? Are you kidding me? :coffee:

Maybe Marchisio isn't mediocre, but I thought that you think Aquilani should not even by purchased by Juve. Lol Sciacca, you shouldn't change your opinion just because it better suits one topic than another.... Many better midfielders in mediocre teams than Aquilani.

I'm not understanding the relationship here between price and talent. If Messi were available to me for 300M Euro, I would not pay it despite the fact that he is undoubtably the greatest player on earth.

Aquilani was simply too expensive, simple.

Put it this way, then. If you would not pay 16m euro's for a midfielder, he is mediocre.
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Post by Forza Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:18 am

@Brigate Rossonere wrote:
PerSempreJuve wrote:For every foreigner on Milan I can name two Italians better in the position of the player.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHA

Ok, Ibra and Pato as ST, Silva as CB.

I've gotta say I found this laughable too. Even V. Bommel could be added to this list the way he played last season and considering he made the WC final. But, even if you don't add him, Ibra is impossible to compare to any big Italian striker out there at the moment and Silva...well, not only is he great, but Italy's CBs are not very good at the moment anyway, eg. are we talking about the same Ranocchia who scored an OG v Shalke and the same Bonnuci who's defensive strength led Juventus all the way up to scale the heights of 7th place?

I think Rossi is perhaps in better form than Pato at the moment, but not Pazzini or Matri.

And please don't tell me I'm biased against Italian players because I'm a massive Italy fan, they even won the World Cup on my birthday. This discussion was never meant to be about the national team anyway, but I just had to comment on how ridiculous this claim was.
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Post by IzzyC08 Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:46 am

Well quite a bit has been going on since I was away. drunken
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Post by cripsy dipsy Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:19 am

Always nice having heated debates with interistas and juvetini(sorry, i mean juvetalias) since juvetalia is the all italian club, dont you guys think it would be soothing having bonera and antonini as your major coup this transfer window? Afro
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Post by BigBoban Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:01 am

[quote="Brigate Rossonere"][quote="PerSempreJuve"]
@Brigate Rossonere wrote:

Put it this way, then. If you would not pay 16m euro's for a midfielder, he is mediocre.

Pawn of the Day

Well put my friend
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Post by M99 Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:10 am

Roma

Antonini Bonera Yepes Oddo

Gattuso Ambrosini Emerson (Mr X)

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Adriano (Mr Y) Toni (Mr Z)

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Post by M99 Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:44 am

OK I've been through the pages and saw some hilarious posts. But before I begin, PerSempreJuve, are you Juvenelcuore?

So what is all the crying about? Milan don't contribute to the Italy team? WAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAA!

Like Giancarlo said, quality>nationality. The fact that we have the likes of world class un-Italians Pato, Ibrahimovich and Thiago Silva and Juve have average Italian pippas like Marco Motta, Simone Pepe and Luca Toni is the reason why AC Milan are the Champions of Italy and Juventus is 7th.

I respect Juventus and their contribution to La Nazionale A LOT, but you my dear sir is acting like every single player with an Italy cap are from Juventus and Milan did nothing for the National Team. Who has the highest caps as a player and captain for Italy? Paolo Maldini. An AC Milan legend. Who was Italy's best player on field player in the victorious 2006 World Cup? Andrea Pirlo. Who was doing all the dirty workd in the midfield? Gennaro Gattuso. There were a fair number of players from Milan in the 2006 World Cup (Pirlo, Nesta, Gattuso, Inzaghi) and also in the 1994 World Cup, it was Maldini and Baresi's superb defending (along with Baggio's magic) which lead Italy to the final. In the final a one legged Baresi and Maldini cold not be breached by the likes of Romario. And have you ever heard of Gianni Rivera? The greatest. When knowledgeable people debate about who is the Greatest Italian Player Of All Time, it is between Rivera and Valentino Mazzola. Rivera was voted as the Greatest Italian Footballer of the 20th Century, do you know where he played? AC Milan, where he won 2 European Cups (funnily the same number Juventus won in their in their entire history)
He was the hero of the Game Of The Century and could have won a World Cup, but Italy was outdid by the greatest international team of all time (1970 Brazil). And there were more great Italians who played for Milan(Tassoti, Capello, Trapatonni, Loddeti, Costacurta, Anceolotti, Cesare Maldini I could go all day)

I've noticed you have been glorifying Juventus by adding player who are your youth products, played at Juve post retirement, used the toilet in Juve's stadium. You might as well add Rossi and Matri to Milan then LOL. We will most probably get Astori, that's another Italian along with Cassano in the National Team line up, Prandelli has confirmed that if Abate continues his tremendous form he will get a call up as will Abbiati, Paloshci plays in the U21 National Team. We might get Montolivo or El Shaarawy who are Italians as well.

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Post by dostoevsky Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:33 am

If you wish to discuss contributions to the national team for each club, go make a thread in the Serie A section.

Otherwise, give your favourite Milan line up for next year or get out of this thread.

Also Izzy, cool sig.
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Post by M99 Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:35 am

Since you Juve fans love Italians so much, feel free to take Bonera, Antonini and Oddo Give your favorite Milan line up for next year - Page 5 Ghelyon
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Post by M99 Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:36 am

@dostoevsky wrote:If you wish to discuss contributions to the national team for each club, go make a thread in the Serie A section.

Otherwise, give your favourite Milan line up for next year or get out of this thread.

Also Izzy, cool sig.

Sorry there dos, I just had to teach PerSempreJuve a lesson in history after reading his wonderful posts which has really contributed a lot to the world.
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Post by dostoevsky Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:45 am

Haha I haven't read through everything but responses were needed, five pages was a tad excessive though. : P

Also on topic, given that people are including transfers such as Ganso or Aquilani I might wait and see how our market shapes up, not to mention not wishing to include Poli until we have him in the bag. I agree with Iras' earlier post though in that I'm almost certain Gattuso will begin at RCM, then we shall see if Boateng successfully transfers back into midfield or whether Flamini or a new purchase rises up. Gattuso may still hold his spot for important matches however, dependent on fitness and our schedule.
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Post by Brigate Rossonere Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:41 am

Forza Rossoneri wrote:I think Rossi is perhaps in better form than Pato at the moment, but not Pazzini or Matri.

And even then, where is Rossi playing now? Inter? Juve? Not even in Italy...

@dostoevsky wrote:If you wish to discuss contributions to the national team for each club, go make a thread in the Serie A section.

Otherwise, give your favourite Milan line up for next year or get out of this thread.

Also Izzy, cool sig.

Sorry Mr Mod :coffee:

milanista99 wrote:OK I've been through the pages and saw some hilarious posts. But before I begin, PerSempreJuve, are you Juvenelcuore?

So what is all the crying about? Milan don't contribute to the Italy team? WAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAA!

Like Giancarlo said, quality>nationality. The fact that we have the likes of world class un-Italians Pato, Ibrahimovich and Thiago Silva and Juve have average Italian pippas like Marco Motta, Simone Pepe and Luca Toni is the reason why AC Milan are the Champions of Italy and Juventus is 7th.

I respect Juventus and their contribution to La Nazionale A LOT, but you my dear sir is acting like every single player with an Italy cap are from Juventus and Milan did nothing for the National Team. Who has the highest caps as a player and captain for Italy? Paolo Maldini. An AC Milan legend. Who was Italy's best player on field player in the victorious 2006 World Cup? Andrea Pirlo. Who was doing all the dirty workd in the midfield? Gennaro Gattuso. There were a fair number of players from Milan in the 2006 World Cup (Pirlo, Nesta, Gattuso, Inzaghi) and also in the 1994 World Cup, it was Maldini and Baresi's superb defending (along with Baggio's magic) which lead Italy to the final. In the final a one legged Baresi and Maldini cold not be breached by the likes of Romario. And have you ever heard of Gianni Rivera? The greatest. When knowledgeable people debate about who is the Greatest Italian Player Of All Time, it is between Rivera and Valentino Mazzola. Rivera was voted as the Greatest Italian Footballer of the 20th Century, do you know where he played? AC Milan, where he won 2 European Cups (funnily the same number Juventus won in their in their entire history)
He was the hero of the Game Of The Century and could have won a World Cup, but Italy was outdid by the greatest international team of all time (1970 Brazil). And there were more great Italians who played for Milan(Tassoti, Capello, Trapatonni, Loddeti, Costacurta, Anceolotti, Cesare Maldini I could go all day)

I've noticed you have been glorifying Juventus by adding player who are your youth products, played at Juve post retirement, used the toilet in Juve's stadium. You might as well add Rossi and Matri to Milan then LOL. We will most probably get Astori, that's another Italian along with Cassano in the National Team line up, Prandelli has confirmed that if Abate continues his tremendous form he will get a call up as will Abbiati, Paloshci plays in the U21 National Team. We might get Montolivo or El Shaarawy who are Italians as well.

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Post by Forza Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:11 pm

@dostoevsky wrote:Haha I haven't read through everything but responses were needed, five pages was a tad excessive though. : P

Also on topic, given that people are including transfers such as Ganso or Aquilani I might wait and see how our market shapes up, not to mention not wishing to include Poli until we have him in the bag. I agree with Iras' earlier post though in that I'm almost certain Gattuso will begin at RCM, then we shall see if Boateng successfully transfers back into midfield or whether Flamini or a new purchase rises up. Gattuso may still hold his spot for important matches however, dependent on fitness and our schedule.

What about our captain, Ambrosini? I can't see Boateng getting dropped and I envision Gattuso starting most games. At the same time I think Boateng-Ambrosini-Gattuso would be fatal to our chances of scoring. Even Seedorf-Ambrosini-Boateng isn't going to work well. Would it be wise to drop Van Bommel? He was arguably our best midfielder in the second half of the season. Then comes the question of our new midfield signing... even if they're a CAM, they will be competing with Robinho and Cassano for the only spot. If they're a LCM, Boateng will then have to play CAM, especially given Seedorf's recent underwhelming performances there. Some tough decisions are going to have to be made unless we have an injury crisis of last season's proportions.
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Post by dostoevsky Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:39 pm

Forza Rossoneri wrote:
@dostoevsky wrote:Haha I haven't read through everything but responses were needed, five pages was a tad excessive though. : P

Also on topic, given that people are including transfers such as Ganso or Aquilani I might wait and see how our market shapes up, not to mention not wishing to include Poli until we have him in the bag. I agree with Iras' earlier post though in that I'm almost certain Gattuso will begin at RCM, then we shall see if Boateng successfully transfers back into midfield or whether Flamini or a new purchase rises up. Gattuso may still hold his spot for important matches however, dependent on fitness and our schedule.

What about our captain, Ambrosini? I can't see Boateng getting dropped and I envision Gattuso starting most games. At the same time I think Boateng-Ambrosini-Gattuso would be fatal to our chances of scoring. Even Seedorf-Ambrosini-Boateng isn't going to work well. Would it be wise to drop Van Bommel? He was arguably our best midfielder in the second half of the season. Then comes the question of our new midfield signing... even if they're a CAM, they will be competing with Robinho and Cassano for the only spot. If they're a LCM, Boateng will then have to play CAM, especially given Seedorf's recent underwhelming performances there. Some tough decisions are going to have to be made unless we have an injury crisis of last season's proportions.

I think Ambrosini has a chance of starting alongside Van Bommel if both display their best form, however initially certainly I expect either Gattuso or Flamini beside one of them. I think one thing that hasn't really been considered yet is the possiblity that Boateng may actually not be a part of the first eleven as the season develops. He's a fan favourite certainly, and I like him, however if he's given a healthy rotation then our transfer market may actually conspire to bench Prince. He's been unfairly maligned for his performances behind the strikers, however part of returning to the summit of Europe is having a flexible squad where more than 11 have the quality to start. We'll judge on the basis of how creative our reinforcements are.
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Post by BigBoban Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:45 pm

I think we'll need to rotate Ambro and Van Bommel there both the wrong side of 30 so don't expect either to have a stranglehold on the position. Prince should be a starter, popularity aside, if he maintains his form. Flamini is the wild card. I can't see him as a starter but he deserves it as soon as Gattuso is unavailable or form drops
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Post by Ganso Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:33 pm

lol,there arent italians better than our sarting foreigners(except boateng)

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Post by Giancarlo Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:13 pm

I think Van Bommel pretty much won his spot in the starting line up. I don't believe Allegri will drop him. Ambrosini has fitness issues these days. And I don't really see Gattuso starting many matches.

And someone said he can name two Italians better than our non-Italians. Baloney. Ibra is way better than any Italian striker. Pato is miles better than Matri and Pazzini. Thiago Silva was by far the best CB in Italy. Don't even try to name Chiellini or Ranocchia. They don't even come close. And Taiwo is certainly better than any Italian LB (Taiwo > Balzaretti).
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Post by Ganso Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:20 pm

i really think allegri will keep boateng as the cam,and put mr X in the 3 man mid alongside gattuso and van bommel
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Post by Giancarlo Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:24 pm

I still don't think Ganso would be effective as an LCM if he comes. I think Allegri may drop Boateng back to midfield, and put Ganso as an CAM. Boateng isn't great as a CAM. I think he would be more useful further back.
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Post by IzzyC08 Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:27 pm

I see the midfield having Gattuso and Flamini rotating the RCM role
Van Bommel and Ambrosini handling the CM but Ambrosini could play as LCM alongside Van Bommel.
LCM will be split with Mr. XYZ & Emanuelson with Ambrosini possibly slipping in a few times.

Boateng will probably remain behind the strikers unless we pick up a another CAM or Trequartista then he may move back but it's still unlikely.
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