Dont Under estimate the Flying ones...

JuvenelCuore wrote:Lol @ Inter fans acting like this is a shocker.

Remember what the team was before Calciopoli. As Moggi said, you lot had to pull out the calculators and add the point total of another team to that of Inter to match Juventus.

Inter depended on stole players to fund generational players and now that they are gone, back goes the cycle of Juventus doing well and Inter scraping by.

Nothing new. Nature taking its course.

I have no choice, I MUST confirm yours words.Its time for Inter to show his real face ( to fight for UCL spot for years ).

michael1 wrote:Dear lord here we go again juve are cheater and inter are surely the victims.

Inter fans seem to forget how many calls theyve had go there way these last couple of years.

Grow up guys reffs make mistakes all te bloody time in every league get the fuk over it .

Oh really?

Inter got 4 penalties against, most in league, and only one was legit, 1 out of 4

If this were to happen to Juve, i cant even imagine bitchting from Juve, last year got one non called penalty vs Palermo and it was all hell break lose



"Mistakes and penalties. Referees, is the anti-Inter over?"

If you don't calm it down I will close this thread ! not another calciopoli thread

[quote="elmystique"]

baresi wrote:

its so hard to take you seriously after your main post in this thread.....

a jester by all standards...

Why would you say such a thing? I am even more shocked now, that I know all those players started or played.

When the commentator was saying Pirlo, Pepe, Krasic etc..., I was this guy is high, he doesnt even know the names and who is starting.
So what happened then in that game? Are Juve that dependent on Pirlo (Milan reject)?
Or did Conte screw up when he took of Marchisio? Or he should'nt have started Pepe?
Why did'nt Eli get a chance (dont tell me he started and I didnt notice him as well)? Matri why did'nt he play?

CroInter wrote:

michael1 wrote:Dear lord here we go again juve are cheater and inter are surely the victims.

Inter fans seem to forget how many calls theyve had go there way these last couple of years.

Grow up guys reffs make mistakes all te bloody time in every league get the fuk over it .

Oh really?

Inter got 4 penalties against, most in league, and only one was legit, 1 out of 4

If this were to happen to Juve, i cant even imagine bitchting from Juve, last year got one non called penalty vs Palermo and it was all hell break lose



"Mistakes and penalties. Referees, is the anti-Inter over?"

And what about all the calls inter have over the last couple of season??

Honestly dude are u like a 16 year old girl ur always crying about something.

Give us a postal address and ill send u a dress and some high heels.

Get over calls go either way sometimes ur lucky sometimes ur not, every team has fallen foul of refs.

Yes inter have been unlucky this season so far but the prevoius seasons espc after calciopoli use had plenty go ur way and none of use complained then.

Like i said some will go for u and some against deal with it and stop bein a little girl screamin out conspiracyyyy all the time.

Im done here as no matter what is said by anyone there is obv a scandal goin on against inter if use arent winning

[quote="baresi"]

elmystique wrote:

baresi wrote:

its so hard to take you seriously after your main post in this thread.....

a jester by all standards...

Why would you say such a thing? I am even more shocked now, that I know all those players started or played.

When the commentator was saying Pirlo, Pepe, Krasic etc..., I was this guy is high, he doesnt even know the names and who is starting.
So what happened then in that game? Are Juve that dependent on Pirlo (Milan reject)?
Or did Conte screw up when he took of Marchisio? Or he should'nt have started Pepe?
Why did'nt Eli get a chance (dont tell me he started and I didnt notice him as well)? Matri why did'nt he play?

Its more that Milan is Pirlo's reject but nvm...... Players were tired from international matches and Chievo are rough team to break esp when they play home


I say a horse can fly

[quote="baresi"]

elmystique wrote:

baresi wrote:

its so hard to take you seriously after your main post in this thread.....

a jester by all standards...

Why would you say such a thing? I am even more shocked now, that I know all those players started or played.

When the commentator was saying Pirlo, Pepe, Krasic etc..., I was this guy is high, he doesnt even know the names and who is starting.
So what happened then in that game? Are Juve that dependent on Pirlo (Milan reject)?
Or did Conte screw up when he took of Marchisio? Or he should'nt have started Pepe?
Why did'nt Eli get a chance (dont tell me he started and I didnt notice him as well)? Matri why did'nt he play?

Dude do you support Millan?

Chievo is the Stoke City of Serie A.

Its hard to break them at home.

Please Juve fans, this thread is only to discuss what went wrong against Cheivo, no need to drag Inter into this.

michael1 wrote:

CroInter wrote:

michael1 wrote:Dear lord here we go again juve are cheater and inter are surely the victims.

Inter fans seem to forget how many calls theyve had go there way these last couple of years.

Grow up guys reffs make mistakes all te bloody time in every league get the fuk over it .

Oh really?

Inter got 4 penalties against, most in league, and only one was legit, 1 out of 4

If this were to happen to Juve, i cant even imagine bitchting from Juve, last year got one non called penalty vs Palermo and it was all hell break lose



"Mistakes and penalties. Referees, is the anti-Inter over?"

And what about all the calls inter have over the last couple of season??

Honestly dude are u like a 16 year old girl ur always crying about something.

Give us a postal address and ill send u a dress and some high heels.

Get over calls go either way sometimes ur lucky sometimes ur not, every team has fallen foul of refs.

Yes inter have been unlucky this season so far but the prevoius seasons espc after calciopoli use had plenty go ur way and none of use complained then.

Like i said some will go for u and some against deal with it and stop bein a little girl screamin out conspiracyyyy all the time.

Im done here as no matter what is said by anyone there is obv a scandal goin on against inter if use arent winning

Now you are making stuff up, 1st season after calciopoli Inter got ref help, since then they didnt, but this is 3rd game in a row that Inter got fake penalty called agaisnt, is that normal?
Yeah its so "unlucky", im not saying there is conspiracy agaisnt Inter but refs are fkn Inter over so far this season. And it has to stop.

Surag.Blueguy wrote:Chievo is the Stoke City of Serie A.

Its hard to break them at home.

I find that difficult to Believe, since Novara scored two goals against them at home. Are you telling me Novaras' attack>>> Juves;????

baresi wrote:

Surag.Blueguy wrote:Chievo is the Stoke City of Serie A.

Its hard to break them at home.

I find that difficult to Believe, since Novara scored two goals against them at home. Are you telling me Novaras' attack>>> Juves;????

Or maybe, just maybe, they play a lot more defensively against teams like Juve?

CroInter wrote:

michael1 wrote:

CroInter wrote:

michael1 wrote:Dear lord here we go again juve are cheater and inter are surely the victims.

Inter fans seem to forget how many calls theyve had go there way these last couple of years.

Grow up guys reffs make mistakes all te bloody time in every league get the fuk over it .

Oh really?

Inter got 4 penalties against, most in league, and only one was legit, 1 out of 4

If this were to happen to Juve, i cant even imagine bitchting from Juve, last year got one non called penalty vs Palermo and it was all hell break lose



"Mistakes and penalties. Referees, is the anti-Inter over?"

And what about all the calls inter have over the last couple of season??

Honestly dude are u like a 16 year old girl ur always crying about something.

Give us a postal address and ill send u a dress and some high heels.

Get over calls go either way sometimes ur lucky sometimes ur not, every team has fallen foul of refs.

Yes inter have been unlucky this season so far but the prevoius seasons espc after calciopoli use had plenty go ur way and none of use complained then.

Like i said some will go for u and some against deal with it and stop bein a little girl screamin out conspiracyyyy all the time.

Im done here as no matter what is said by anyone there is obv a scandal goin on against inter if use arent winning

Now you are making stuff up, 1st season after calciopoli Inter got ref help, since then they didnt, but this is 3rd game in a row that Inter got fake penalty called agaisnt, is that normal?
Yeah its so "unlucky", im not saying there is conspiracy agaisnt Inter but refs are fkn Inter over so far this season. And it has to stop.

Look no doubt inter have fallen foul, im not denying use have been hard done by.

But what does it have to do with juve??

Everytime inter has got a bad call this season juve has been dragged in like we own the refs or something.

And thats whats getting to me.

Unfortunantly inter have copped it a bit from refs but like i said u know it all evens out as u will get calls for ur team.

It sucks but thats football dude.

No one likes seein refs screw games but nothin we can do.

Would jsut prefer if juve wasnt always dragged in.

jn2002dk wrote:

baresi wrote:

Surag.Blueguy wrote:Chievo is the Stoke City of Serie A.

Its hard to break them at home.

I find that difficult to Believe, since Novara scored two goals against them at home. Are you telling me Novaras' attack>>> Juves;????

Or maybe, just maybe, they play a lot more defensively against teams like Juve?

But you should be expecting this against most mid table teams, so no surprise there.

baresi wrote:

jn2002dk wrote:

baresi wrote:

Surag.Blueguy wrote:Chievo is the Stoke City of Serie A.

Its hard to break them at home.

I find that difficult to Believe, since Novara scored two goals against them at home. Are you telling me Novaras' attack>>> Juves;????

Or maybe, just maybe, they play a lot more defensively against teams like Juve?

But you should be expecting this against most mid table teams, so no surprise there.

Oh i'm not saying that as an excuse for a poor performance from Juve, just in response to your Novara analogy

It was a very mediocre performance from Juve, no doubt about it

baresi wrote:

Surag.Blueguy wrote:Chievo is the Stoke City of Serie A.

Its hard to break them at home.

I find that difficult to Believe, since Novara scored two goals against them at home. Are you telling me Novaras' attack>>> Juves;????

They have a great record against the big teams.They conveniently park the bus against big teams but somehow fail to capitalize against teams which are on their level or slightly higher than them.

Look at their record at home against big teams last season.they've defeated Inter and Napoli at home ,drawn against Juve and Roma so yeah they are a tough nut to crack at home.

I am not using this as an excuse.We should've won this match but we have to consider that Chievo is a tough place to get a win as well.

jn2002dk wrote:

baresi wrote:

jn2002dk wrote:

baresi wrote:

Surag.Blueguy wrote:Chievo is the Stoke City of Serie A.

Its hard to break them at home.

I find that difficult to Believe, since Novara scored two goals against them at home. Are you telling me Novaras' attack>>> Juves;????

Or maybe, just maybe, they play a lot more defensively against teams like Juve?

But you should be expecting this against most mid table teams, so no surprise there.

Oh i'm not saying that as an excuse for a poor performance from Juve, just in response to your Novara analogy

It was a very mediocre performance from Juve, no doubt about it

So why was it like that? what are the reasons? IYO

baresi wrote:

jn2002dk wrote:

baresi wrote:

jn2002dk wrote:

baresi wrote:

Surag.Blueguy wrote:Chievo is the Stoke City of Serie A.

Its hard to break them at home.

I find that difficult to Believe, since Novara scored two goals against them at home. Are you telling me Novaras' attack>>> Juves;????

Or maybe, just maybe, they play a lot more defensively against teams like Juve?

But you should be expecting this against most mid table teams, so no surprise there.

Oh i'm not saying that as an excuse for a poor performance from Juve, just in response to your Novara analogy

It was a very mediocre performance from Juve, no doubt about it

So why was it like that? what are the reasons? IYO

They are hard to break at home, players tired from international matches,4-1-4-1 doesn't work against Chievo we should have played with 2 forwards .. SS and ST

Yup, pretty much what Devi wrote
Bad choice of formation, tired players or maybe just a collective offday for some of them. It happens

Surag.Blueguy wrote:

baresi wrote:

Surag.Blueguy wrote:Chievo is the Stoke City of Serie A.

Its hard to break them at home.

I find that difficult to Believe, since Novara scored two goals against them at home. Are you telling me Novaras' attack>>> Juves;????

They have a great record against the big teams.They conveniently park the bus against big teams but somehow fail to capitalize against teams which are on their level or slightly higher than them.
Look at their record at home against big teams last season.they've defeated Inter and Napoli at home...

Its the nature of Serie A, cant we say the same about Juve?
They comfortably beat Milan (champions), and fail against Bologna, Cheivo and Catania???

jn2002dk wrote:Yup, pretty much what Devi wrote
Bad choice of formation, tired players or maybe just a collective offday for some of them. It happens

But many players werent called up for the International break, and did'nt play?

baresi wrote:

jn2002dk wrote:Yup, pretty much what Devi wrote
Bad choice of formation, tired players or maybe just a collective offday for some of them. It happens

But many players werent called up for the International break, and did'nt play?

According to Conte 'not gelled to with the team ' .....


the point is you can;'t beat Chievo when every time they lose the ball they lay down for 10 *bleep* minutes cryign every single time ..... they make fouls as insane and knock the players on the legs .... they are worse than Stoke ffs

Your thread title says "dont underestimate the flying ones"

Yes we dint.we fielded quite a strong lineup.Only downside was we should've played two strikers instead of one striker upfront.Conte basically employed the same tactics which he did against Milan.

Also some of the reasons were provided above from devi and i agree with him completely.

So just cuz we beat Milan it doesnt mean that we had to go ahead with same tactics.I admit that Conte should've been flexible enough in his approach.Probably he'll realize in time that we need to be top heavy when we're facing teams like that considering we have a solid defense now and a balanced midfield.

I'm hoping and i'm sure there would be some kind of retrospection on this.

DeviAngel wrote:

baresi wrote:

jn2002dk wrote:Yup, pretty much what Devi wrote
Bad choice of formation, tired players or maybe just a collective offday for some of them. It happens

But many players werent called up for the International break, and did'nt play?

According to Conte 'not gelled to with the team ' .....


the point is you can;'t beat Chievo when every time they lose the ball they lay down for 10 *bleep* minutes cryign every single time ..... they make fouls as insane and knock the players on the legs .... they are worse than Stoke ffs

true but Juve commited many fouls as well, its not like Juve did'nt do it.

baresi wrote:

DeviAngel wrote:

baresi wrote:

jn2002dk wrote:Yup, pretty much what Devi wrote
Bad choice of formation, tired players or maybe just a collective offday for some of them. It happens

But many players werent called up for the International break, and did'nt play?

According to Conte 'not gelled to with the team ' .....


the point is you can;'t beat Chievo when every time they lose the ball they lay down for 10 *bleep* minutes cryign every single time ..... they make fouls as insane and knock the players on the legs .... they are worse than Stoke ffs

true but Juve commited many fouls as well, its not like Juve did'nt do it.

well we couldn't just stand and get the shit kicked out of us could we ?

DeviAngel wrote:

baresi wrote:

DeviAngel wrote:

baresi wrote:

jn2002dk wrote:Yup, pretty much what Devi wrote
Bad choice of formation, tired players or maybe just a collective offday for some of them. It happens

But many players werent called up for the International break, and did'nt play?

According to Conte 'not gelled to with the team ' .....


the point is you can;'t beat Chievo when every time they lose the ball they lay down for 10 *bleep* minutes cryign every single time ..... they make fouls as insane and knock the players on the legs .... they are worse than Stoke ffs

true but Juve commited many fouls as well, its not like Juve did'nt do it.

well we couldn't just stand and get the shit kicked out of us could we ?

Why not say it's the nature of Serie A, I saw it once in a signature: "Fouls dont mean you cant make them, it means you cant continue playing after doing a foul" something to that meaning.

Its not like they are violent fouls, just tactical ones. To be able to compete you have to adjust, Juve being all about Italia should know this better than any other.