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Post by StrugaRock on Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:03 pm

@Ganso wrote:
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@StrugaRock wrote:I'm not saying that he will be same as Robinho, but he isn't ready for Europe. The kid is 19, inexperienced and has yet to prove that he is worth 50M Euros. We all saw Copa America, he failed.

Also he is a spoiled kid, he is selfish and immature.

what do you based that off? No offense bro, but you seem to be riding the cliches. I have not heard a single thing about his behavior in a year; He is one of the most generous guy on the pitch, always looking to pass or link up, and he is 19. Frankly, i dont expect him to reason nor behave like Alonso. But it does not mean that he is lazy and does not work.

Neymar is not worth 50M, we arent buying a finished article, we are buying a potential. And it's an investment we make because we will easily absorb the costs.
im not even responding people who say this 10x a day,its as you said,just a huge and annoying cliche.Really cant stand people comparing him and Robinho on these forums anymore.

immature,selfish,spoiled?really?

He was the one who refused to pass the ball just cause some other guy took the penalty kick. Am I right?

I hope I'm wrong, Neymar is closer to Madrid more than any other club, and if he join us I hope he does wonders, wins us matches and trophies, wins Ballon d'Or and the WC. But what bugs me is that he is not ready for a club big as Real Madrid, or Barca and Chelsea for that matter, but especially Real Madrid since the pressure is higher and he is just 19 yo. If I was him I'd wait unlit 21-22 to move to Europe.

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Post by the xcx on Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:34 pm

Il take neymar anyday than di maria. If it was the case with hazard, it would made my day
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Post by Zealous on Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:58 pm

Robinho never lead a team to trophies, never. Full Stop.

Nerman on the other hand has been carrying Santos and Brazil on his back. Winning some silverware on the way. Calling him another Robinho would be ignorant.

This doesn't mean that signing Nerman is a great idea right now but saying he is Robinho 2.0 is flat out wrong.

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Post by Zealous on Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:01 am

Also if there is one thing that makes him different is that he just wants to hear the net ripple when the ball hits it. He doesn't care if it's him or someone else.

For someone his age it's amazing how often he looks to link up and play 1-2's.

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Post by StrugaRock on Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:08 am

@Zealous wrote:Robinho never lead a team to trophies, never. Full Stop.

Nerman on the other hand has been carrying Santos and Brazil on his back. Winning some silverware on the way. Calling him another Robinho would be ignorant.

This doesn't mean that signing Nerman is a great idea right now but saying he is Robinho 2.0 is flat out wrong.

Robinho won Copa America 2007, being top scorer and best player at the same time :coffee:

Well I might just be pessimistic about Neymar, but I still think that 50m Euros is way way to much for him, also think that he should stay in Brazil for 2-3 more years.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:11 am

First of all, how do you know we will pay 50M? last summer it was 40M, but now it went up? No one knows how much money we will put on the table for him, and again, It's an investment we will get back within a year or so. Let's stop worrying about the money.

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Post by Zealous on Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:13 am

Yeah Nerman is hot hot hot in Brazil alone. Think of the shirt sales, the shirt sales!!!

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Post by Le Samourai on Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:14 am

We have enough left footers.

Neymar is the most talented and ultimately money isn't a concern for me since we all know how the business paradigm works.So Neymar.

However

The chemistry Goetze Sahin and Ozil and Benzema could potentially develop could make Barcas current midfield look , with all due respect to them, a bunch of nomadic circus freaks.

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Post by Zealous on Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:15 am

@StrugaRock wrote:
@Zealous wrote:Robinho never lead a team to trophies, never. Full Stop.

Nerman on the other hand has been carrying Santos and Brazil on his back. Winning some silverware on the way. Calling him another Robinho would be ignorant.

This doesn't mean that signing Nerman is a great idea right now but saying he is Robinho 2.0 is flat out wrong.

Robinho won Copa America 2007, being top scorer and best player at the same time :coffee:

Well I might just be pessimistic about Neymar, but I still think that 50m Euros is way way to much for him, also think that he should stay in Brazil for 2-3 more years.

Robinho may have been top scorer but he wasn't the reason Brazil won, he didn't even do that well in the semi's and final (Maicon, Alves and Baptista were the stand outs)

I agree with you about the price though even 40 million is a lot but in the end I guess it doesn't really matter because we can afford it.

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Post by Zealous on Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:16 am

ragbirjosh wrote:We have enough left footers.

Neymar is the most talented and ultimately money isn't a concern for me since we all know how the business paradigm works.So Neymar.

However

The chemistry Goetze Sahin and Ozil and Benzema could potentially develop could make Barcas current midfield look , with all due respect to them, a bunch of nomadic circus freaks.

Benzema speaks German O.o

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Post by Le Samourai on Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:18 am

@Zealous wrote:
ragbirjosh wrote:We have enough left footers.

Neymar is the most talented and ultimately money isn't a concern for me since we all know how the business paradigm works.So Neymar.

However

The chemistry Goetze Sahin and Ozil and Benzema could potentially develop could make Barcas current midfield look , with all due respect to them, a bunch of nomadic circus freaks.

Benzema speaks German O.o

Benzema + the three of them behind them would = playmaking heaven.

TBH Higuain would score 50-60 goals a season with them behind him.

All of them have tiki taka + Counterattack game.


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Post by StrugaRock on Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:19 am

@Zealous wrote:
ragbirjosh wrote:We have enough left footers.

Neymar is the most talented and ultimately money isn't a concern for me since we all know how the business paradigm works.So Neymar.

However

The chemistry Goetze Sahin and Ozil and Benzema could potentially develop could make Barcas current midfield look , with all due respect to them, a bunch of nomadic circus freaks.

Benzema speaks German O.o

OK maybe he means

Mulsims(Benzema(Sahin, Ozil)Goetze)Speaking German :coffee:

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Post by StrugaRock on Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:29 am

For now I'd take Hazard over Neymar and Neymar over Gotze

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Post by Ganso on Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:15 am

@StrugaRock wrote:For now I'd take Hazard over Neymar and Neymar over Gotze
my thoughts exactly
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Post by Don't call me James on Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:03 am

Check Out my sig.......And after 5-6 years at Pool.....At his peak at around 24-25 Hazard will probably join Madrid.

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Post by Jeps33178 on Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:19 am

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Post by Magricos on Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:51 am

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
@teza1992 wrote:Gotze has by far the most potential.
messi was not as good as Gotze at 19...
Let's snap him up before someone else does.

From what i've seen:
Gotze>>>Neymar
That kind of comparison never goes anywhere you know,

I recall Aguero was rated higher than Messi back then.

Gotze will be top player no doubt.

Better question to ask ourselves is, what do we need the most, in terms of skillset? Because those three kids are immensely talented, yet different, and they all will bring a different style.

Aguero wasn't rated higher.

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Post by Guest on Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:14 am

I'd take Gotze purely based on his playmaking skills

He is far better in that regard than Neymar and Hazard

Imagine Sahin Ozil and Gotze in the starting 11, Ronaldo would score 100 a season lmao

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Post by Ganso on Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:19 am

Is he really that good at playmaking?the few times I've seen him he looked more like a offensive type player,didn't se a lot of playmaking skills
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Post by EarlyPrototype on Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:29 am

Neymar > Hazard > Gotze
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Post by EarlyPrototype on Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:34 am

Hazard's agent just confirmed we are tracking him and that he is open to a move to us. Very Happy
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Post by futbol_bill on Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:18 pm

I think this thread is incorrectly worded. There is just too much news about Neymar not to have this be true. You may not like it but it certainly seems like reality that he comes for next season. Likely at the expense of Kaka (sold) and Di maria (bumped from starting position).

The only issue I see from this is we have 2 egotistical, selfish, diving wings on at same time. But at same time there both are top players.

This thread should therefore be titled; is there any room for Hazard or Godtze? and if so who is to leave club?
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Post by Zees on Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:42 pm

@futbol_bill wrote:I think this thread is incorrectly worded. There is just too much news about Neymar not to have this be true. You may not like it but it certainly seems like reality that he comes for next season. Likely at the expense of Kaka (sold) and Di maria (bumped from starting position).

The only issue I see from this is we have 2 egotistical, selfish, diving wings on at same time. But at same time there both are top players.

This thread should therefore be titled; is there any room for Hazard or Godtze? and if so who is to leave club?
di maria ? drunken

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Post by guest7 on Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:43 pm

How about we just don't buy any and give our cantera the chance it deserves?
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Post by EarlyPrototype on Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:56 pm

@futbol_bill wrote:I think this thread is incorrectly worded. There is just too much news about Neymar not to have this be true. You may not like it but it certainly seems like reality that he comes for next season. Likely at the expense of Kaka (sold) and Di maria (bumped from starting position).

The only issue I see from this is we have 2 egotistical, selfish, diving wings on at same time. But at same time there both are top players.

This thread should therefore be titled; is there any room for Hazard or Godtze? and if so who is to leave club?

Neymar uses his team mates well. Best dribbler in the world after Messi so if anyone is gonna be selfish should be him. Also we are replacing a diver with a diver no harm done lol.

We are strongly linked with Hazard too so we can't be exactly sure who we are gonna get maybe both? Cool
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Post by StrugaRock on Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:00 pm

omarish wrote:How about we just don't buy any and give our cantera the chance it deserves?

Well I'm for Sarabia > All three of them but that's just me

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