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Post by Unique on Sun Dec 01, 2019 7:58 pm

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No, it really wasn't. I live at the German border and we're literally obligated to taught German in Denmark.

You obviously don't know shit about other countries hmm
britain and sir winston churchill liberated your fat ostrich riding ass from german occupation in ww2 is what i mean.


Lol imagine insulting a 10 year old's looks right after almost dying. Good on you rofl

Doesn't surprise me. Too busy hitting your own kids?

you looked fine to me but that ostrich looked like he was struggling a bit. Laughing Laughing Laughing

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Post by Unique on Sun Dec 01, 2019 7:59 pm

@Freeza wrote:
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No, it really wasn't. I live at the German border and we're literally obligated to taught German in Denmark.

You obviously don't know shit about other countries hmm
britain and sir winston churchill liberated your fat ostrich riding ass from german occupation in ww2 is what i mean.


Lol imagine insulting a 10 year old's looks right after almost dying. Good on you rofl

Doesn't surprise me. Too busy hitting your own kids?

i dont negotiate with terroists mate. rofl

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Post by Freeza on Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:00 pm

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britain and sir winston churchill liberated your fat ostrich riding ass from german occupation in ww2 is what i mean.


Lol imagine insulting a 10 year old's looks right after almost dying. Good on you rofl

Doesn't surprise me. Too busy hitting your own kids?

you looked fine to me but that ostrich looked like he was struggling a bit. Laughing Laughing Laughing


It's a statue. And a Peacock. Dumb and blind... Perfect combo.

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Post by Unique on Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:03 pm

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Lol imagine insulting a 10 year old's looks right after almost dying. Good on you rofl

Doesn't surprise me. Too busy hitting your own kids?

you looked fine to me but that ostrich looked like he was struggling a bit. Laughing Laughing Laughing


It's a statue. And a Peacock. Dumb and blind... Perfect combo.
Laughing Laughing where did he get the picture anyway. Very Happy

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Post by Freeza on Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:09 pm

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@Unique wrote: you looked fine to me but that ostrich looked like he was struggling a bit. Laughing Laughing Laughing


It's a statue. And a Peacock. Dumb and blind... Perfect combo.
Laughing Laughing where did he get the picture anyway. Very Happy


Either from on here or Facebook I reckon. Been my profile picture for years, and my real name is public.

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Post by Unique on Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:11 pm

@Freeza wrote:
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It's a statue. And a Peacock. Dumb and blind... Perfect combo.
Laughing Laughing where did he get the picture anyway. Very Happy


Either from on here or Facebook I reckon. Been my profile picture for years, and my real name is public.
i will add you as a friend cheers

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Post by Unique on Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:11 pm

@Freeza wrote:
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It's a statue. And a Peacock. Dumb and blind... Perfect combo.
Laughing Laughing where did he get the picture anyway. Very Happy


Either from on here or Facebook I reckon. Been my profile picture for years, and my real name is public.
i will add you as a friend cheers

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Post by McLewis on Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:39 pm

Monday's House Judiciary hearings were pretty interesting.

Quick Recap -

- The House Intelligence Committee has completed and voted (along party lines) on sending it's report (all those hearings 2 weeks ago) to the House Judiciary Cmte, who will decide whether to draft articles of impeachment against Trump.

- The House Judiciary Cmte is led by Democrat Rep. Jerry Nadler (New York) with the Republicans led by Doug Collins (Georgia). Democrats have called 3 Constitutional Law professors to testify to explain why the testimony from the witnesses and the evidence gathered adds up to moving forward with articles of impeachment. The professors were:

    - Professor Pamela Karlan of Stanford University
    - Professor Noah Feldman of Harvard University
    - Professor Michael Gerhardt of the University of North Carolina

- All 3 professors testified that the testimonies of the witnesses during the Intelligence hearings indicate that the actions Trump took meet the criteria for high crimes and misdemeanors, which means he should be impeached.

- The Republicans called one professor, Jonathan Turley of George Washington University, who argued that Trump cannot be impeached because the Democrats have not been able to bring all evidence to the hearings and without that, the bar has not been met. He also argues that Democrats are ignoring Trump's repeated claims that he committed no quid pro quo.

- While this should should've been a rather boring, sleepy testimony, it was actually rather lively. Full of quotable moments and highlights. Far too many for me to recap here so I'd say check out this article from USA Today.

Yesterday, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced, as expected, that Democrats will file articles of impeachment, which will move the process to the Republican-controlled Senate. As I mentioned before, Republicans have complained the whole way through, with a myriad of excuses and reasons, that Trump should not impeached so while the House will impeach him, the Senate will not convict and remove him. That's how I expect this to end.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:18 pm

The question, I think, is whether Trump comes out looking stronger after the dems wasted months on impeachment only to see no Republicans turn. Will it play into his narrative? Have any election impact at all?

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Post by Myesyats on Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:07 pm

He won the first election with "DRAIN THE SWAMP" and now he's going to win with the "WITCH HUNT". The man knows exactly what he's doing.

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Post by McLewis on Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:10 pm

Remarkable moment yesterday between Speaker Pelosi and a reporter who asked her if she hates Trump.

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Post by Unique on Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:03 pm

what are the chances of trump surviving this.

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Post by FennecFox7 on Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:08 pm

The democrats are two steps behind. Impeachment is a waste of time.

The answer to beating trump is having a true progressive win the nomination. The Democratic party is their own worst enemy and they have no idea how to play politics.
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Post by Young Kaz on Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:54 am

@FennecFox7 wrote:The democrats are two steps behind. Impeachment is a waste of time.

The answer to beating trump is having a true progressive win the nomination. The Democratic party is their own worst enemy and they have no idea how to play politics.


Thing is, if we dont attempt to impeach, then History will judge us far worse than if we waste time and try and it fails.
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:26 pm

of course you have to impeach, I agree

if you're not going to impeach these obvious violation, you can just throw your consitution into the trash and let anyone get away with anything

still, of course nothing will directly come out of it, he's not going to get removed from office

to do that you must beat him, anyone but Biden will do

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:19 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:to do that you must beat him, anyone but Biden will do


What's the data to back this up? Polls consistently show Biden as the likeliest to beat Trump

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:26 pm

Once the general population gets involved and realizes just how deteriorated Biden's state is, that will change

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Post by Young Kaz on Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:16 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:Once the general population gets involved and realizes just how deteriorated Biden's state is, that will change




lol.

You really believe that? Or are you hoping?
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:43 pm

You are right to lol probably

At this point I guess I am hoping, nothing more

honestly, if I had to bet money, I'd bet on Trump

as absolutely fucking mental as that sounds

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Post by Blue on Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:39 pm

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:
@Hapless_Hans wrote:to do that you must beat him, anyone but Biden will do


What's the data to back this up? Polls consistently show Biden as the likeliest to beat Trump


Yeah like Hilary was supposed to beat Trump, data showed that too.

Gut feeling Trump wins again vs Biden, just don't think Biden and establishment offer anything. On the other hand Trump can point out his strong economy, and play the anti establishment rhetroic.

Regarding the inpeahment, it is a shame imo. There are many things the Dems can persue to impeach Trump truly, but they chose this because he went after one of their own. Exposing the other party corruption is a red line and unwritten rule of what not to do in American poltics. Trump attempted to leaverage Hunter and Joe Biden corruption in Ukraine to build up for his reelaction. This was impeachable offense from the party perspective. Polsi recently admitted that she knew George Bush was lying to the public regarding the Iraq war, but that was not impeacgable. So
This saga is not about moral or Constitutional obligation, this is about protecting one of their own.

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Post by CBarca on Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:57 pm

Sorry, but look at the polling in the states that count. Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio, Florida etc

Sure I know a lot of progressives here in WI but on the whole? The state doesn't want Warren or Sanders. The state needs someone like Biden against Trump, imo. Please do not compare Hillary to Biden, btw. Trump narrowly beat Hillary in WI, but based on sexism and likeability alone, in 2016 Biden beats Trump here. And he probably beats Trump in Michigan based on the same sentiment.

Not to mention the large and incredibly influential voting block that are black Americans, who on the whole really, really prefer Biden.

I can't really understand people who don't think that Biden should be taken seriously right now. I get people even less who are dismissing his chances against Trump. Right after the gold standard of polling in The Upshot showed that Biden does have, as of right now, the best chance (even favored based on those numbers).

A lot can and will change between 2020 and now. I'm not particularly fond of Biden. But he's honestly still the frontrunner, although I see people on the internet the world over trying to delude themselves into the idea that he's not.

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Post by CBarca on Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:07 pm

As for impeachment, what do you guys expect?

Trump did something impeachable. He should be impeached for it. I commend the Democrats for that. Sure you can talk about inconsistency or "protecting one of their own", but the fact of the matter is that in this situation, they had to impeach and they did it. I can give them credit for that

I don't personally buy the fact that impeachment is a disaster for the Dems either tbh.

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Post by Unique on Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:12 pm

scenes when trump worms his way out of impeachment and wins the next election Laughing Laughing

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Post by Young Kaz on Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:32 pm

To be honest, if trump wins it will have nothing to do with who the democrats put against him, and everything to do with how well the country is doing.

Unemployment is as low as it has been since the late 60's. You kinda of cant vote him out if it remains like this. The average person isnt unhappy enough to spend the effort it takes to vote.
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:34 pm

@Unique wrote:scenes when trump worms his way out of impeachment and wins the next election Laughing Laughing


He doesn't need to worm his way out of it, to get removed from office a 2/3 majority of the senate would have to vote so and that's not going to happen as the Republicans hold the majority

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Post by Unique on Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:35 pm

@Young Kaz wrote:To be honest, if trump wins it will have nothing to do with who the democrats put against him, and everything to do with how well the country is doing.

Unemployment is as low as it has been since the late 60's. You kinda of cant vote him out if it remains like this. The average person isnt unhappy enough to spend the effort it takes to vote.
so if the country is doing well why do people hate on trump.

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