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Post by danyjr on Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:20 pm

@RealGunner wrote:VAR rules out an Arsenal goal and no one knows why
Did the referee check any video or was it a straight call from VAR?

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Post by RealGunner on Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:23 pm

No idea about that either. He just disallowed it.

For this apparently. Chambers fouled someone...


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Post by Unique on Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:26 pm

And spurs are the latest victims of klopps red machine. Cool

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Post by Firenze on Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:27 pm

Loserpool still riding the biggest luck wave I've ever witnessed in football. Getting absurd now.
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Post by Arquitecto on Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:28 pm

Brilliant comeback.

Fully deserved.

Spurs really are an unimpressive team this year and the scoreline should have been higher for us.

Our midfield continues to lack any form, shape or balance whilst the frontline beyond Firmino's ingenuity and the wide forwards pace is beginning to look stale.

But shown the necessary grit to grind out a much needed win with City breathing down our necks.

YNWA

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Post by Unique on Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:31 pm

Good point for arsenal and this new 8 man back line for manure seems to be working

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Post by iftikhar on Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:41 pm

@Firenze wrote:Loserpool still riding the biggest luck wave I've ever witnessed in football. Getting absurd now.
Yeah Spurs were bloody lucky. Imagine if Lloris was GK Razz.
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Post by RealGunner on Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:42 pm



lol
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Post by danyjr on Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:44 pm

@Arquitecto wrote:Our midfield continues to lack any form, shape or balance whilst the frontline beyond Firmino's ingenuity and the wide forwards pace is beginning to look stale.
Are you kidding me? Your midfield is a hard working engine, a midfield doesn't need to be all flash. I thought Fabinho was immense. I can't believe he is the same guy who was signed by Liverpool a year and a half ago. He was clumsy, slow and lacked anything worthy of talking about back then. Fast forward less than a couple of years and he is, in my opinion, showing that he EPL's best DM. Perhaps not as technical as his compatriot Fernandinho but a better athlete than him. And he's only going to get better.

Finally I think it is safe to say Klopp is the world's best coach right now. Not only he gets results, his teams are a joy to watch and he has improved his players without spending Fraudiola money.

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Post by danyjr on Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:45 pm

@RealGunner wrote:

lol
A straight red imho. Bad intention + goalscoring opportunity.

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Post by Firenze on Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:53 pm

@RealGunner wrote:

lol


am I the only one that thinks flagrant shit like this should be an automatic 5 game suspension

Palace were about to grab all 3 points.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:55 pm

@RealGunner wrote:Absolute scenes at the Emirates lmao

Xhaka subbed off. Fans started cheering that substitution. Telling him to move faster.

Xhaka waves his arms like prime Russell Crowe in Gladiator. Telling them to cheer louder

Then says fuck off to the crowd

Crowd starts booing him

Straight down the tunnel


Laughing Laughing Laughing

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Post by Arquitecto on Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:58 pm

@danyjr wrote:
@Arquitecto wrote:Our midfield continues to lack any form, shape or balance whilst the frontline beyond Firmino's ingenuity and the wide forwards pace is beginning to look stale.
Are you kidding me? Your midfield is a hard working engine, a midfield doesn't need to be all flash. I thought Fabinho was immense. I can't believe he is the same guy who was signed by Liverpool a year and a half ago. He was clumsy, slow and lacked anything worthy of talking about back then. Fast forward less than a couple of years and he is, in my opinion, showing that he EPL's best DM. Perhaps not as technical as his compatriot Fernandinho but a better athlete than him. And he's only going to get better.

Finally I think it is safe to say Klopp is the world's best coach right now. Not only he gets results, his teams are a joy to watch and he has improved his players without spending Fraudiola money.



Youre taking my criticism as an individual comment on players. My comment pertains on a long standing problem that it lacks balance in certain situations as when the strengths of the midfield do not work, to simply put it, the rest of the dimension needed for any form of creativity fails to exist. This is not a Klopp based problem or individual but more circumstantial and will be solved with additional depth no doubt.


Fabinho is indeed as good as you say and has added many elements to his game additionally ever since arriving to Liverpool.

Klopp? I still feel Pep is the best coach in the world for many reasons but Kloppo certainly is my utmost favourite one and think once a week the pain it will be to see his inevitable if not near departure.


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Post by Jay29 on Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:01 pm

Calling it now: Arsenal are finishing 8th this season.

They're going to be mauled when they go to Leicester, Wolves, etc. Just like last season. Only this time they're no longer picking up the points against the weak sides as consistently.

Everyone's focused on Spurs and United being bad, but Arsenal have lowkey been a car crash and it's only getting more violent from here. At least those clubs don't boo their own players. Neutral

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Post by Arquitecto on Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:59 pm

Xhaka should be stripped of captaincy immediately for that display of disrespect. If you are captain there is no need to be this sensitive to a group of fans supporting arguably one of two of the most frustrating clubs to support of the decade (the other being Roma).

Xhaka represents for me somewhat of a microcosm of Unai's saga at Arsenal at it is for its good and bad.

Arsenal have not had a leader in their dressing room since Arteta.

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Post by Helmer on Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:01 pm

@Arquitecto wrote:Our general lack of depth, balance in the midfield and quality is just a glaring sight increasingly by the week and I am suddenly not as optimistic I was a month ago.

We should be able to tie the game but our winter transfer kit will be crucial.
I highly doubt we will sign anyone this winter Laughing at least not a player who will challenge the front three. Unless some player seriously gets injured.

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Post by Helmer on Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:10 pm

@danyjr wrote:
@Arquitecto wrote:Our midfield continues to lack any form, shape or balance whilst the frontline beyond Firmino's ingenuity and the wide forwards pace is beginning to look stale.
Are you kidding me? Your midfield is a hard working engine, a midfield doesn't need to be all flash. I thought Fabinho was immense. I can't believe he is the same guy who was signed by Liverpool a year and a half ago. He was clumsy, slow and lacked anything worthy of talking about back then. Fast forward less than a couple of years and he is, in my opinion, showing that he EPL's best DM. Perhaps not as technical as his compatriot Fernandinho but a better athlete than him. And he's only going to get better.

Finally I think it is safe to say Klopp is the world's best coach right now. Not only he gets results, his teams are a joy to watch and he has improved his players without spending Fraudiola money.
Fabinho has definitely started playing more passes which lead to good chance creation. The problem is a midfield of Hendo, Wijnaldum and Fabinho as the deepest player is not balanced enough to win games when teams are defending too deep. I hope Klopp tweaks it enough to create better quality chances or better shots from midfield.
But luckily we have the two fullbacks who are the best in Europe in the current form. That looped pass from Trent to Mane in the box was just amazing to watch.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:50 pm

I see that Man Utd have been gifted another 2 penalties today. How many is this now this season? 8? 10?

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Post by Firenze on Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:11 am

VAR bless
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:23 am

Not Man Utds fault their attack is so unstoppable that the only way to stop them is to foul them @Firenze
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Post by CBarca on Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:04 am

How the game turned when N'Dombele came on ffs

When Lo Celso and N'Dombele are permanent fixtures in this team, I think Spurs are going to look way different, for the better. As I've said many times, Winks and Sissoko are absolutely awful. You CANNOT play through the middle whatsoever with them in there.

Oh, and once again it's Aurier at fault at RB. I laugh every time I see Spurs lose or draw due to their own stupidity. RB was the position that needed the most upgrading and it was ignored. It's cost countless points already.

I didn't think the performance was great from Spurs, but the scoreline was fair. Liverpool crossed and crossed but didn't create many good chances. They still were the much better side and deserved the win. With that being said, the performance was kind of expected. That's good. It didn't look like a Spurs squad in crisis getting their ass kicked. In fact, there were a couple opportunities near the end of the game for Tottenham to draw level.

They've started to look...more normal again. And I think that's a bright spot in a loss to a really good team.

Btw, Eriksen has to go in January. His performances have been pure, unalderated shite ever since the summer (other than the first couple substitutions at the beginning of the season). He doesn't want to be there anymore and it shows.

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Post by Glory on Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:14 am

Genuine question. Why are Ndom and Celso not playing?Frustrating to see Poch still picking that idiot Sissoko even in big games like these.

I thought SPurs were piss poor. What was their gameplan? Get a goal and defend for the rest of the game? :facepalm: Liverpool were good mind. But still I reckon had Tottenham turned up, they would have hurt Pool yesterday.

EDIT: On second thought, yea the approach understandable considering their form this season.


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Post by Glory on Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:17 am

No one's posted this yet?   Epic from main man Troopz.

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Post by Kick on Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:36 am

Backed him last week, wants him out the next, classic AFTV.

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Post by Jay29 on Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:34 am

Get a load of Arsenal's shortlist to replace Wenger:

Allegri, Lopetegui, Sampaoli, Rangnick, Emery, Arteta, Henry, Vieira.

Club considered Howe, Rodgers, Conte and Sarri, too, but weren't pursued for "differing reasons".

Worrying times when the guy you're replacing is still better than seven manages on an eight man shortlist.

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Post by Glory on Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:44 am

@Jay29 wrote:

Everyone's focused on Spurs and United being bad, but Arsenal have lowkey been a car crash and it's only getting more violent from here. At least those clubs don't boo their own players. Neutral

Spoiler:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kusSIHPfe2k
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