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Post by Kick on Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:19 am

@Firenze wrote:Tammy is a jobber. This seasons Holt/Michu. He's a scrubkiller.

Quote me in May 2022. Don't @ me before then.


The way things are going, Tammy is going to score 15 goals this season, at least.

He has shown enough all round quality for Lampard to keep faith in him, and goals will come. Even if he hits bad form for a while.

So assuming he doesn't get injured, he'll play 30+ games more this season and scored at least 15 goals.

That is enough to keep him at the club next season which will be the deciding season, imo. If he keeps his spot over whoever we sign, then I think he'll make it, if not, he'll be a decent squad option at the least.

Also, The difference between him and Michu, is age. Tammy is still young and has been improving every season, almost every loan has been a success and his goal numbers have been consistant. Michu was an utter flash in the pan.

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Post by Art Morte on Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:33 am

Since Chelsea shouldn't be direct competition for us this season I'm really happy for both Abraham's and Mount's great starts to the season. Chelsea have been such a demoralizing club for young players to try and break through at for so long that it's good to see this happening.
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Post by Nishankly on Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:20 pm

Stones out for 5 weeks. This is literally make or break for both Liverpool and City.
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Post by Winter is Coming on Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:26 pm

No excuses for Pool.

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Post by Nishankly on Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:53 pm

@Winter is Coming wrote:No excuses for Pool.


True, assuming last season = this season. hmm
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Post by Arquitecto on Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:17 pm

I firmly believed before this season began we will win the Premiership, finally and will not sway even if we lose our next game.

Time to unearth the spirit of Sepi and carry the flag for this opinion.

This year is ours.

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Post by halamadrid2 on Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:07 pm

How in the world did Valencia manage to beat Chelsea Laughing

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:36 am

@halamadrid2 wrote:How in the world did Valencia manage to beat Chelsea Laughing
Chelsea are an average team that is being carried by unproven players. Why shouldn't Valencia beat them? scratch

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Post by Glory on Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:23 am

@Nishankly wrote:Stones out for 5 weeks. This is literally make or break for both Liverpool and City.


Pep will find a way. The guy will play Fernandinho or Walker in central defense and they will get the job done with minimum fuss. They have pretty straightforward fixtures as well till November.
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Post by halamadrid2 on Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:36 am

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:
@halamadrid2 wrote:How in the world did Valencia manage to beat Chelsea Laughing
Chelsea are an average team that is being carried by unproven players. Why shouldn't Valencia beat them? scratch
they were thoroughly outplayed from start to finish. Had like 2 shots on target all game. They would've been lucky with a draw nevermind a win.

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Post by Helmer on Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:24 am

@Glory wrote:
@Nishankly wrote:Stones out for 5 weeks. This is literally make or break for both Liverpool and City.


Pep will find a way. The guy will play Fernandinho or Walker in central defense and they will get the job done with minimum fuss. They have pretty straightforward fixtures as well till November.

this !
But I would still say, NO EXCUSES !

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Post by Nishankly on Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:06 pm

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Post by RealGunner on Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:08 pm

Chelsea. Real Madrid. Man United. Inter.

Some of the richest clubs. So not surprised.

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Post by Nishankly on Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:12 pm

Really important to see Avg value of a signing as well here. Wenger is at 9m per signing while Pep is at 23m.

Benitez and Emery there kinda come as a surprise but yeah Benitez did spend at Liverpool but he sold quite often as well.
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Post by Kick on Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:58 pm

It's always going to be skewed towards more recent managers due to the recent price inflation.

I'd be more interested to see if all of those managers are still there if it's adjusted for inflation.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:11 am

@Kick wrote:It's always going to be skewed towards more recent managers due to the recent price inflation.

I'd be more interested to see if all of those managers are still there if it's adjusted for inflation.


Ferguson would be topping it, of course

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Post by Kick on Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:26 am

@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@Kick wrote:It's always going to be skewed towards more recent managers due to the recent price inflation.

I'd be more interested to see if all of those managers are still there if it's adjusted for inflation.


Ferguson would be topping it, of course


SAF would have to be up there just due to his tenure, Wenger too.

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Post by Kick on Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:26 am

@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@Kick wrote:It's always going to be skewed towards more recent managers due to the recent price inflation.

I'd be more interested to see if all of those managers are still there if it's adjusted for inflation.


Ferguson would be topping it, of course


SAF would have to be up there just due to his tenure, Wenger too.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:33 am

Yeah, and all the Rooneys, and Ferdinands, and Verons would be 100m+ transfers today

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Post by Helmer on Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:20 am

I thought Klopp would be at least in top 10 [smiley]https://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif[/smiley] but what do I then know about such things!


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Post by Unique on Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:48 am

@Nishankly wrote:
so the top 3 most successful managers in the world have spent by far the most money. has enyone seen mole. hmm

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Post by zigra on Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:53 pm

@Helmer wrote:I thought Klopp would be at least in top 10 Laughing but what do I then about such things!

He's close tbf.. should be around 650m or so.
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Post by Thimmy on Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:02 pm

I'm not at all surprised that Klopp isn't on there. A lot of people seem to forget that the last club he coached was a Dortmund team that was known for developing youngsters, rather than spending on established names. All of the other managers on that list have coached more than one club with a competitive budget.

If there's anything I've learnt from reading the internet's opinions on managers, it's that the vast majority of people seem to conflate a manager's ability to coach, with the quality of his team, which in turn makes their ability to decide whether or not a coach is good at what he does, quite arbitrary. Fans like to think that they know exactly what coaches are doing, and that they know how to improve on it, but ultimately it's usually the quality of the team that decides how well the team performs in competitions - or like GL likes to put it, the product of "the coach's man management!" Laughing

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Post by RealGunner on Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:26 pm

Really not sure how Southampton survives each year.
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Post by El Gunner on Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:39 pm

@RealGunner wrote:Really not sure how Southampton survives each year.


Stark quality difference between Bournemouth and them.
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Post by RealGunner on Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:56 pm

Are they broke? considering how much they sell their players for they should have more than enough money to invest in proper strikers.
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