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Post by sportsczy on Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:53 pm

It's getting there imo.  The elite clubs can't force other clubs to sell... because the entire EPL and a handfull of other clubs have just as much buying power.

So you're seeing in a shift.  Top 4 in EPL will all compete hard in CL.  So will PSG, Juve and Bayern.  So with Barca, Madrid and Atleti, you now have 10 clubs that can legitimately beat each other.

A few years ago, there was literally a top 3 (madrid, barca and bayern) and then a step down for the next tier.  That's gone forever imo.

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Post by Thimmy on Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:58 pm

I'm sure you would've enjoyed CL a lot more if you had someone like De Bruyne, Neymar and/or Sterling on your team, Firenze Razz

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Post by Glory on Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:29 am

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Laughing Havent seen a more useless player play for United like ever. Legit feel he would be one of the main reasons to contribute in Ole's eventual sacking. Just like LvG and an impotent Rooney. Jose and Fellaini, now you got Solksjaer and JLingz.
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Post by RealGunner on Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:31 am

Guess who played United in Dec 2018....


Yup

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Post by Glory on Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:32 am

Lol yea I remember that
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Post by Art Morte on Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:10 pm

Maybe I'm reaching a bit here, but skills wise I don't think he's that much worse than Dele Alli, but Alli does a million times better job at getting into dangerous positions.
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Post by RealGunner on Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:51 pm

@Art Morte wrote:Maybe I'm reaching a bit here, but skills wise I don't think he's that much worse than Dele Alli, but Alli does a million times better job at getting into dangerous positions.


He is more skilful than Alli. Alli isn't a great dribbler and nothing special on the ball but off the ball he is better than lingard can ever be.
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Post by Arquitecto on Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:43 pm

Lingard gives the impression of that player who is a coaches dream in the form of Mandzukic under Allegri on the left, Eto'o under Mourinho in the Champions League final or just a general sacrificial but tactical advancement outlet just because of his high work rate and close to zero skill on the ball but the absurd thing is his footballing IQ and off-ball movement is just as bad.

It makes you wonder what Mourinho and Solskjær see in him bar a way to cover his own flank for their fullback deficiencies.


And like some stunningly average players he compensates for a huge off field/ice/court/rink presence with his social media presence to which sadly at that is even worse given Pogba and him make the most cringe pairing off field I have ever seen.

Smart though as it brings them to the map beyond what they are.

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Post by Thimmy on Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:19 pm

He's basically their Vasquez. United simply don't have any better alternatives.

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Post by RealGunner on Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:39 pm



lol
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Post by sportsczy on Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:41 pm

@Thimmy wrote:He's basically their Vasquez. United simply don't have any better alternatives.

bingo. perfect comparison.

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Post by Nishankly on Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:37 pm

@RealGunner wrote:
@Art Morte wrote:Maybe I'm reaching a bit here, but skills wise I don't think he's that much worse than Dele Alli, but Alli does a million times better job at getting into dangerous positions.


He is more skilful than Alli. Alli isn't a great dribbler and nothing special on the ball but off the ball he is better than lingard can ever be.


The problem here is that Alli is a system player, very limited imho. Lingard doesn't work in any system that doesn't have him on the bench.
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Post by Helmer on Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:54 pm

And yet we are supposed to read here at GL how Spurs will spring back to form once Alli returns or how Spurs are missing Alli :coffee:
I never got the hype tbh.

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Post by Doc on Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:09 pm

@RealGunner wrote:

lol

I could see the confusion

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Post by El Gunner on Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:19 pm

since we had some Wenger talk recently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z51c6Kf4-A

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Post by Art Morte on Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:20 pm

@El Gunner wrote:since we had some Wenger talk recently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z51c6Kf4-A

El Professeur


I made it halfway through. A shit video, to be honest. Just Messi/Ronaldo questions. Wenger would have so much more to say about the game.
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Post by CBarca on Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:24 am

Dele is 100x the player Lingard is in every respect except for athleticism lol

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Post by Nishankly on Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:16 pm

Dani Ceballos:

I’ve never seen anything like what I saw at Anfield; I haven’t seen a team that plays better, that presses like them, the way the fans carry them along. You spend so much time defending & when you want to catch your breath & get on the ball, they've taken it again

I am waiting what he says when Arsenal play City Laughing
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Post by Nishankly on Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:10 pm

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Post by El Gunner on Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:21 pm

BEST LEAGUE IN THE WORLD back this weekend!!!
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Post by El Gunner on Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:24 pm

Leicester to beat Man United. And Wolves - Chelsea should be fun also. Probably will miss it because i think I'm gunna go see Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
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Post by Nishankly on Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:34 pm

@El Gunner wrote:BEST LEAGUE IN THE WORLD back this weekend!!!


Dammit I have been waiting for this day since I was born ffs
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Post by Thimmy on Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:35 pm

@Doc wrote:
@RealGunner wrote:

lol

I could see the confusion


I honestly got them mixed up, back when we were linked to both of them. We were linked to Mertesacker after Metzelder left, as well. I recall a friend of mine claiming they not only had similar names, but possessed a similar level of talent, as well Laughing

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Post by Nishankly on Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:47 pm

Rashford:

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Post by El Gunner on Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:50 pm

^^somebody on Twitter once said he is just another black boy from the ends, only difference is he has a bit of pace.
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Post by CBarca on Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:45 am

@Arquitecto wrote:Lingard gives the impression of that player who is a coaches dream in the form of Mandzukic under Allegri on the left, Eto'o under Mourinho in the Champions League final or just a general sacrificial but tactical advancement outlet just because of his high work rate and close to zero skill on the ball but the absurd thing is his footballing IQ and off-ball movement is just as bad.

It makes you wonder what Mourinho and Solskjær see in him bar a way to cover his own flank for their fullback deficiencies.


And like some stunningly average players he compensates for a huge off field/ice/court/rink presence with his social media presence to which sadly at that is even worse given Pogba and him make the most cringe pairing off field I have ever seen.

Smart though as it brings them to the map beyond what they are.


Welbeck under SAF really reminds me of this. Especially his performance vs Real Madrid in the CL, don't recall the year. He was a "young talent" back then.

Really wonderful performance though and SAF being the magnificent manager he is utilized Welbeck to his full potential. Far better player with SAF than he's been since.

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