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Post by futbol_bill on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:48 pm

There was a rumor out a few weeks ago that Zidane wanted Vinicius to go out on loan. Now after two preseason games, Vinicius has gotten little playing time and even Lucas gets a start before him?

We all know the history of Zidane keeping kids shut out of playing time, suggesting often they are better off out on loan. Obviously, he wants more experienced players on his bench, as evidence this summer.

Right now he has Vinicius, Rodrygo, Kubo and Brahim battling for positions in the squad. Rodrygo and Kubo can’t make it to 1st team until Valverde gets his Spanish passport, likely September and even then it can only be one of them!

With Asensio likely not going to be included in squad, the need for these kids is all the more apparent.

However instead of giving Vinicius more playing time, we saw Asensio, Lucas and Bale instead of Vinicius? Does that tell us anything? I think Vinicius will be on squad but it looks like it will be a bench roll suggesting Zidane will bring him into lineup slowly, like he did with Asensio in his first year. We should also expect same treatment with Brahim, Rodrygo and Kubo, although in the ladder case, it will have to wait a year.

With Asensio out, I think that is the opening for Isco to be a starter (If he can regain form). Although I still think this last starting spot will be rotated depending on configuration used. However with Asensio out, it does open the door to Lucas (god help us), or even Bale (that would prohibit the acquisition of Pogba) and even a remote possibility for James?
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:04 pm

rodrygo and Brahim will be registered with castilla and juvenil, they wont have any issues playing for us.

if you are trying to guess what zidane thinks after 2 preseason games, you are wasting your time lol.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:22 pm

what i would say is we know who Zidane likes, and who he doesnt. this is not new.

The old guard of modric, kroos, isco, vasquez, etc... guy who have won for him before and played poorly last year. they are his guys, they are senior players in the squad and Zidane loves hierarchy.

It's fair for him to think that if they play at the level they use to be at, his season will go well. So he has a difficult task of bringing back his guys + integrating young players.

Those young kids have to earn their playing time, nothing will be handed to them. We saw at the end of last season Zidane gave a lot of minutes to Brahim, and Brahim did really good with his time.

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Post by sportsczy on Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:44 pm

I also think that Lucas Vasquez starting has a lot to do with Carvajal struggling on defense. It's unfortunate... but he feels he needs to compensate there.

Hazard and Benzema don't defend so he needs a lot of cover from the other forward.

THAT SAID, i'd start Vini on the right. He's played like a headless chicken a lot though so far. Hoping that turns around.

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Post by Freeza on Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:40 pm

To be fair to Vinicius he should've gotten a penalty yesterday, so he at least created something.

I'd prefer playing the Brazilian winger who's got actual experience on the right.

Pains me to think how much playing time Vazquez will get this season.

The injury might lead to us playing Benz and Jovic together as the main XI though

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Post by vanDEEZ on Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:03 pm

Now that Asensio is out the issue is that apart from Vazquez, the only player who has real experience off the right is Bale.. so yeah.
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Post by Freeza on Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:11 pm

We might as well play De La Fuente

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Post by titosantill on Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:39 pm

@vanDEEZ wrote:Now that Asensio is out the issue is that apart from Vazquez, the only player who has real experience off the right is Bale.. so yeah.


Lol, what a tangled web we weave. Bale has his flaws, hell, a lot of them. But relying on vazquez for a whole season is suicide. And starting 2 strikers is a risky venture as well. Taking into account what has gone on these past few days, it will be interesting to see zidane and gareth's next moves . Lol
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Post by sportsczy on Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:41 pm

Problem with Bale is that he plays 2-3 weeks out of every 2-3 months... he's obviously a good player. But he never plays! That's been his downfall more than anything.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:44 pm

Asensio or not, the issue with the right wing was not fixed this summer.

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Post by vanDEEZ on Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:35 pm

Would be nice if the price on Pepe or Sane has dropped considering no one is in for them anymore.
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Post by titosantill on Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:01 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:Asensio or not, the issue with the right wing was not fixed this summer.


Agreed.
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Post by Doc on Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:53 am

@Freeza wrote:We might as well play De La Fuente

De La Fuente can actually control a ball tbh.

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Post by NeganIsco on Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:20 am

Vini looks so much less lethal on the RW.

Asensio was supposed to own that wing this season.

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Post by Thimmy on Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:03 pm

@sportsczy wrote:Problem with Bale is that he plays 2-3 weeks out of every 2-3 months... he's obviously a good player. But he never plays! That's been his downfall more than anything.


Another problem is that he in recent years has had a tendency to go through a period of hesitancy in his willingness to make an impact, every time he returns from injury. It's understandable considering how injury prone he's been for us, but it also means that his already limited amount of time being fully fit for action, consists of even less time performing up to the standard that I assume most of us expect from him.

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