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Post by danyjr on Thu 28 Nov 2019, 00:53

I attribute your good performance more to BVB bottling it than Barcelona being particularly great.

You have issues all over the pitch IMHO, starting with LB which I think you desperately need Alba back and a good replacement for him. Firpo is a poor version of Semedo without his athleticism and touch, and is terribly bad at defending. Like wow.

Your midfield despite having De Jong who has been outstanding, is very unathletic. Busquets is pretty much done, Vidal is also not fit to play the Barça style (not sure how Pep played him at Bayern), even though he has his uses he is a squad player not the main man. That leaves you with Arthur and Rakitić. Arthur I've never been a fan of, he hasn't really stepped up his game since joining Barcelona and lacks the vision to find passes that a good midfielder should see. I know some of you don't like Rakitić but I still think he should be starting, he combines very well with Messi and Roberto on the right hand side and is capable of getting inside the box. Not ideal given his age, but he is a better option than Vidal and Arthur.

And your front line is pretty slow, ageing and lacking a classy LW to compliment Suárez and Messi. Dembélé is either injured or playing like shit. Should have offloaded him last year when he was worth something, who would want a KFC eating perma-injured player with a terrible attitude? Griezmann on the other hand is played completely out of position, and although I like Fati he is far too young to start for a team like Barça.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Thu 28 Nov 2019, 05:16

@danyjr wrote:I attribute your good performance more to BVB bottling it than Barcelona being particularly great.

You have issues all over the pitch IMHO, starting with LB which I think you desperately need Alba back and a good replacement for him. Firpo is a poor version of Semedo without his athleticism and touch, and is terribly bad at defending. Like wow.

Your midfield despite having De Jong who has been outstanding, is very unathletic. Busquets is pretty much done, Vidal is also not fit to play the Barça style (not sure how Pep played him at Bayern), even though he has his uses he is a squad player not the main man. That leaves you with Arthur and Rakitić. Arthur I've never been a fan of, he hasn't really stepped up his game since joining Barcelona and lacks the vision to find passes that a good midfielder should see. I know some of you don't like Rakitić but I still think he should be starting, he combines very well with Messi and Roberto on the right hand side and is capable of getting inside the box. Not ideal given his age, but he is a better option than Vidal and Arthur.

And your front line is pretty slow, ageing and lacking a classy LW to compliment Suárez and Messi. Dembélé is either injured or playing like shit. Should have offloaded him last year when he was worth something, who would want a KFC eating perma-injured player with a terrible attitude? Griezmann on the other hand is played completely out of position, and although I like Fati he is far too young to start for a team like Barça.


Haven't tried to play Barca style in years, don't see why we would start now

Agreed with the rest except maybe Rakitic starting. Arthur has what it takes to succeed here.

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Post by BarcaLearning on Thu 28 Nov 2019, 08:01

Agree a lot with the above posts, we clearly relax too much when we are up and comfortable and our tempo just naturally drops. This happens to many teams and its a normal thing during games but we are so poor at defending we really need to stomp this out, at least try and do what we used to do well - keep the ball, and let the opposition run after it and hence they will tire. But usually we just succum to the pressure and let the other team back in it. As long as we dont fix this we can have no hopes for the CL.

Dortmund is in a slump so nothing too exciting about this result.

Im starting to think end of this season if Dembele remains like this, swap him and add cash for Sancho, anyone else agree? Razz
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Post by danyjr on Thu 28 Nov 2019, 08:37

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:Haven't tried to play Barca style in years, don't see why we would start now

Agreed with the rest except maybe Rakitic starting. Arthur has what it takes to succeed here.
You don't but you still rely a lot on quick short passes, which Vidal has been quite atrocious at. I remember him being better at Bayern but he just makes too many mistakes and he has poor awareness. The prime example was yesterday when Roberto passed to him twice in succession, he had a lot of space to take the ball forward each time but instead he passed straight back at Roberto, the second time with very bad precision (ball went out of play despite being a bread and butter pass for any Barcelona midfielder in the last 10 years). You could lip read Roberto telling him to "look behind" and visibly pissed off at him. Imagine Roberto being pissed off at you Laughing

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Post by danyjr on Thu 28 Nov 2019, 08:38

@BarcaLearning wrote:Im starting to think end of this season if Dembele remains like this, swap him and add cash for Sancho, anyone else agree? Razz
Did well against you but he's had a pretty poor season from what I've heard.

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Post by Myesyats on Thu 28 Nov 2019, 09:46

Sancho has attitude issues or so i've heard. Just exchange Dumbele+cash for Neymar and be done with it.

Anyway as long as we have Messi we should focus on getting better midfielders and defenders. That's more important currently.
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Post by danyjr on Thu 28 Nov 2019, 10:05

Neymar is not young any more, last chance was last year. He's gonna be 28, he's put on weight and he's Brazilian. It's all downhill for him from now IMHO. Oh and injury prone.

You should move for the Canadian kid Alphonso Davies that Hans has been raving about. If anyone knows his wingers on this forum it is our German hapless friend.

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Post by FennecFox7 on Fri 29 Nov 2019, 20:40

I feel like Ziyech can do a job at Barca. He plays good defense and has a good engine for such a technical player. His game is much more that of a winger then a 10 now.
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Post by Myesyats on Fri 29 Nov 2019, 21:30

I'd prefer Eriksen to Ziyech tbh, its easier to come across a good winger compared to a solid CAM.

Suarez needs a replacement too so I'm hoping for Lautaro or Tammy Abraham.

This summer will be very important. If we don't strenghten properly and add more athletic players we'll keep suffering.
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Post by danyjr on Sun 01 Dec 2019, 22:22

Junior Firpo is probably the worst LB I've seen in a Barça shirt. Worse than Mathieu, Digne or Vermaelen.

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Post by Myesyats on Sun 01 Dec 2019, 23:51

pray Alba is ready for clasico.

might aswell put some la masia scrub on the left, no difference

or we could play: Semedo/Roberto-Pique-Umtiti-Lenglet
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Post by danyjr on Mon 02 Dec 2019, 00:30

Anyone but Firpo at this rate. He is literally shit at everything. And he is dumb.

Another dubious transfer from the Fartomeu team Proud

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Post by Myesyats on Mon 02 Dec 2019, 00:36

What are these scouts smoking tbh? 10 minutes of this guy and you can already see he is Leganes level. FFS.
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Post by danyjr on Mon 02 Dec 2019, 00:44

I hate to break it to you but I don't think he is La Liga level even. He belongs to the second division or something.

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Post by sportsczy on Mon 02 Dec 2019, 01:41

Griezmann literally has no chance with Messi and Suarez out there. Firpo on his side of the pitch probably made it worse than it really is though lol...

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Post by sportsczy on Mon 02 Dec 2019, 01:42

Btw, Umtiti started out as a fullback at Lyon...  LB.  That's the only place he could be a regular when he started with the senior team.


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Post by BarcaLearning on Mon 02 Dec 2019, 06:41

Firpo wasnt that bad was he in this game? Much better than his debut I remember. Dont think we need to be too harsh, after all, I only expect to be a decent back up.

Arthur getting subbed around 70mins again. The guy just seems to be out of breath all the time, maybe his fitness level is like Ozil or something? I really hope he can improve this otherwise its gonna be to difficult to be a regular certain starter for us?

I think this win was quite lucky, and thanks for Ter Stegen again, just glad we are still top somehow, I fear Real, they are looking increasingly good again.

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Post by Kebab on Mon 02 Dec 2019, 09:42

I think Ter Stegen is Yashin level goalkeeper

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Post by Myesyats on Mon 02 Dec 2019, 10:04

@BarcaLearning wrote:Firpo wasnt that bad was he in this game? Much better than his debut I remember. Dont think we need to be too harsh, after all, I only expect to be a decent back up.

Nah. He is garbage. No question about it. Not even backup material. Digne wasnt much better though.

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Post by Myesyats on Mon 02 Dec 2019, 10:53

@Kebab wrote:I think Ter Stegen is Yashin level goalkeeper

:bow:

I loved this save:

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Today at 21:40

30 minutes 3 great goals, unfortunate 1 was against us Laughing

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