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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:06 pm

I don't see the point in not talking about it already or downplaying it.

There's never been an NBA player who was dominant in pre season and then suddenly was trash when the real stuff started.

I mean just look at the people putting numbers in this pre season, it's all nba guys like Giannis and Steph.

It's not like I'm saying he's better than this or that player or hyping up his overall standing in the game.

I'm pointing out certain things he does and then in this case pointing out his success against DPOY.

I really don't see what's wrong with that.

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Post by CBarca on Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:52 am

I think it's completely fair to point out his numbers in preseason and then also make the comment that it's "preseason". I don't think there is any ill will here from EG nor do I think you're unnecessarily hyping Zion

I wanted to come back and just clarify that I am and have been on the Zion hype train for a long time. I think he's going to be incredible.

With that being said. Preseason.

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Post by Freeza on Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:55 am

Can't wait for next week when it's "just regular season, let's wait for playoffs"

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Post by El Gunner on Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:10 am

We're about a week away, so let's do this... I'll be taking screenshots of all y'alls answers and make a table of how we scored come season's end.

I'll start... you can just copy, paste the framework from my post.

Western Conference standings: (1 pt for each placement correct, x5 bonus pts if all eight teams are correctly chosen regardless of correct placement or not)
1. Clippers
2. Rockets
3. Utah
4. Lakers
5. Warriors
6. Denver
7. Portland
8. Spurs

Eastern Conference Standings: (1 pt for each placement correct, x5 bonus pts if all eight teams are correctly chosen regardless of correct placement or not)
1. Philly
2. Bucks
3. Indiana
4. Celtics
5. Toronto
6. Nets
7. Magic
8. Heat

Who will win the West? (2x pts)
Warriors

Who will win the East? (2x pts)
Philly

- extra 5 pts if both your conference winners are correct

Who will win the Finals? (2x pts)
Warriors

NBA regular season MVP (2x pts)
Wardell Stephen Curry

Rookie of the Year (2x pts)
Zion

Defensive player of the year (2x pts)
Anthony Davis

Most Improved Player (2x pts)
Caris LeVert

6th-Man of the Year (2x pts)
Domantas Sabonis

Zion Williamson's regular season statline (x5 pts to whomever predicts closest to it)
PPG - 17.4
RPG - 7.9
APG - 4.3

Finals MVP (x5 pts)
Klay Thompson


don't be a bum, post your predictions and join the fun


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Post by Freeza on Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:17 am

Western Conference standings:
1. Rockets
2. Lakers
3. Utah
4. Denver
5. Portland
6. Clippers
7. Warriors
8. Pelicans

Eastern Conference Standings:
1. Bucks
2. Philly
3. Pacers
4. Celtics
5. Raptors
6. Nets
7. Hawks
8. Pistons

Who will win the West?
Lakers

Who will win the East?

Who will be the rightful NBA Champs?
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Sixers

MVP:
Anthony Davis

Rookie of the Year
Zion "it's only regular season" Williamson

Defensive player of the year
Anthony Davis

Most Improved Player
Lonzo Ball

6th-Man of the Year
Montrezl Harell (should've won it last year, but media dumb as hell)

Zion Williamson's regular season statline
PPG - 24.5
RPG - 8.6
APG - 2.6

Finals MVP (x5 pts)
LeBron James


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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:48 am

@CBarca wrote:I think it's completely fair to point out his numbers in preseason and then also make the comment that it's "preseason". I don't think there is any ill will here from EG nor do I think you're unnecessarily hyping Zion

I wanted to come back and just clarify that I am and have been on the Zion hype train for a long time. I think he's going to be incredible.

With that being said. Preseason.


I haven't really mentioned his numbers though except the Gobert point and the only reason i did that is because you both said wait until he does it against an actual defence lol.
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Post by silver on Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:52 am

Western Conference standings:
1. Rockets
2. Clippers
3. Lakers
4. Spurs
5. Warriors
6. Utah
7. Portland
8. Denver

Eastern Conference Standings:
1. Bucks
2. Boston
3. Philly
4. Raptors
5. Nets
6. Pacers
7. Bulls
8. Pistons

Who will win the West?
Clippers

Who will win the East?
Bucks

NBA champions?
Bucks

MVP:
James Harden

Rookie of the Year
Zion Williamson

Defensive player of the year
Anthony Davis

Most Improved Player
Dejounte Murray

6th-Man of the Year
Lou Williams

Zion Williamson's regular season statline
PPG - 23.1
RPG - 8.7
APG - 1.4

Finals MVP (x5 pts)
Giannis


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Post by El Gunner on Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:39 pm

sorry lads i should have added who will win the Finals, pls just go back and edit Thumbs up
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Post by Freeza on Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:58 pm

@El Gunner wrote:sorry lads i should have added who will win the Finals, pls just go back and edit Thumbs up


Finals MVP kind of answers it. So not a total oversight

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Post by El Gunner on Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:05 pm

^^true, but still just go and add otherwise miss out on extra pts
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Post by Freeza on Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:15 pm

@El Gunner wrote:^^true, but still just go and add otherwise miss out on extra pts


Done

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Post by Art Morte on Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:41 pm

Western Conference standings:
1. Clippers
2. Jazz
3. Trail Blazers
4. Pelicans
5. Rockets
6. Warriors
7. Nuggets
8. Suns

Eastern Conference Standings:
1. 76ers
2. Bucks
3. Pacers
4. Pistons
5. Heat
6. Nets
7. Bulls
8. Celtics

Who will win the West?
Clippers

Who will win the East?
76ers

MVP:
Giannis

Rookie of the Year
Zion Williamson

Defensive player of the year
Gobert

Most Improved Player
DeAndre Ayton

6th-Man of the Year
Lou Williams

Zion Williamson's regular season statline
PPG - 20.0
RPG - 7.0
APG - 2.0

Finals MVP (x5 pts)
Leonard, Clippers win
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Post by Freeza on Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:50 pm

Dreadful stuff rofl

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:59 pm

There's no way in hell Zion averages 24 a game btw Freeza, nothing against him but we don't really run a offence which is conducive to that sort of total.

In the pre season i don't think he took more than 13 shots in a game.
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Post by Freeza on Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:01 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:There's no way in hell Zion averages 24 a game btw Freeza, nothing against him but we don't really run a offence which is conducive to that sort of total.

In the pre season i don't think he took more than 13 shots in a game.


They're gonna have a crazy fucking pace this season. Any other team I'd guess around 19-21.

Lonzo is perfect for him (to get a lot of points, since he really prefers not to shoot) and I expect him to be around 24ppg, truly.

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Post by Freeza on Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:04 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:There's no way in hell Zion averages 24 a game btw Freeza, nothing against him but we don't really run a offence which is conducive to that sort of total.

In the pre season i don't think he took more than 13 shots in a game.


He took 13 shots, and averaged more than 23 in 27 minutes. That's not normal. I've legit never seen anything like this guy.

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Post by Art Morte on Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:24 pm

Pelicans don't have a star to demand the ball a lot, so Zion might average upwards of 20ppg.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:22 pm

@Art Morte wrote:Pelicans don't have a star to demand the ball a lot, so Zion might average upwards of 20ppg.


We don't but we move the ball more than anyone else in the league not called Golden State.

Jrue, Lonzo, Ingram and Zion will all have playmaking duties, this isn't a Lebron like situation where Zion will get 20+ shots every night.

I would be very surprised if he gets more than 15 shots a night.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:26 pm

@Freeza wrote:
@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:There's no way in hell Zion averages 24 a game btw Freeza, nothing against him but we don't really run a offence which is conducive to that sort of total.

In the pre season i don't think he took more than 13 shots in a game.


He took 13 shots, and averaged more than 23 in 27 minutes. That's not normal. I've legit never seen anything like this guy.


I actually feel the opposite, i think if was in a worse situation i could see him averaging 24 where he's putting up numbers for a bad team.

But he won't reach it for us because his shot attempts will be more limited.
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Post by El Gunner on Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:07 pm

Agree with Mole, Jrue and Ingram are other primary scorers on that team.

Also, @Mole post your predictions
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Post by Freeza on Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:44 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
@Art Morte wrote:Pelicans don't have a star to demand the ball a lot, so Zion might average upwards of 20ppg.


We don't but we move the ball more than anyone else in the league not called Golden State.

Jrue, Lonzo, Ingram and Zion will all have playmaking duties, this isn't a Lebron like situation where Zion will get 20+ shots every night.

I would be very surprised if he gets more than 15 shots a night.
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@Art Morte wrote:Pelicans don't have a star to demand the ball a lot, so Zion might average upwards of 20ppg.


We don't but we move the ball more than anyone else in the league not called Golden State.

Jrue, Lonzo, Ingram and Zion will all have playmaking duties, this isn't a Lebron like situation where Zion will get 20+ shots every night.

I would be very surprised if he gets more than 15 shots a night.


15 fga will be plenty enough to get get 24 ppg

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Post by Art Morte on Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:45 pm

14-15 shots per game plus free throws and Zion's ppg could start with a 2.

Am I crazy thinking that the Suns could be decent? Rubio, Booker, Oubre, Saric, Ayton doesn't sound bad to me.
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Post by El Gunner on Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:54 pm

@Art Morte wrote:14-15 shots per game plus free throws and Zion's ppg could start with a 2.

Am I crazy thinking that the Suns could be decent? Rubio, Booker, Oubre, Saric, Ayton doesn't sound bad to me.


yes you are, they're basically Bulls level at best :coffee:
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Post by Art Morte on Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:03 pm

Steady on.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:34 pm

Suns have a bunch of young players which have a history of losing.

Don't see that changing anytime soon.
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Post by Freeza on Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:34 pm

@Art Morte wrote:14-15 shots per game plus free throws and Zion's ppg could start with a 2.

Am I crazy thinking that the Suns could be decent? Rubio, Booker, Oubre, Saric, Ayton doesn't sound bad to me.


Three of those are useless. Also leaving off Lakers invalidates every single other thing on your list. And injuries isn’t an excuse since the most injury prone players in the league are on your 1st seed.

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