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Post by RealGunner on Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:55 pm

Is gargano as good as everyone say?

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:17 pm

@RealGunner wrote:Is gargano as good as everyone say?


In the ring yes, he's had about 5 match of the year candidates.

But NXT focuses on storytelling and character development much more than the main roster so strip that away from him and put him in meaningless matches with no heat behind it he probably won't look half as good.

But that's what main roster does so theres no point me going over that again lol.
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Post by Casciavit on Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:30 pm



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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:56 pm

What in the actual fuck is that.
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Post by RealGunner on Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:16 pm

What do you all think about AEW?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:21 pm

@RealGunner wrote:What do you all think about AEW?


That it's good for fans and the wrestlers to have an alternative. Plus while they never will be WCW it's good that WWE are actually competing with someone for talent.

Until they get a TV deal and we see what the product is like it's hard to really get a grasp of what i should think overall.
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Post by Kaladin on Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:26 am

What the fuck happened to Bray lmao

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Post by Arquitecto on Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:11 am

Shane McMahon:"How can you hit another man's father?"

He has a point

Oh wait

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Post by RealGunner on Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:13 pm

Didn't realise MT used to write stories for WWE back in the days

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Post by Onyx on Tue May 14, 2019 9:37 pm

Interesting. hmm

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue May 14, 2019 9:39 pm

Been the best thing about RAW for weeks, that and Sami Zayn's promos.

Now when he actually has to perform live with this gimmick please don't fuck it up.
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Post by Casciavit on Tue May 14, 2019 10:31 pm

I've been enjoying the both of them as well. Hope Zayn wins MITB.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Wed May 15, 2019 12:38 am

My MITB winners list is very short.

It's either Andrade or Zayn, Andrade because i feel like if he was actually allowed something to push momentum he can be great.

He's fantastic in the ring, Zelina Vega is awesome on the mic but they haven't given him anything to build off from.

Zayn because his body of work absolutely deserves it, don't really want to see it on anybody else in the match.
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Post by M99 on Wed May 15, 2019 10:27 am

https://wrestlingnews.co/wwe-news/triple-h-is-reportedly-the-most-frustrated-person-in-wwe/

Here are things said on the podcast by the close friend of three current WWE writers:

– WWE’s problems are not the fault of the writers. “No one should rip on WWE creative. They have some of the most brilliant, unbelievable cool ideas that I’ve ever heard…” He was told, “We’re writing for an audience of one and never forget that [and if not] you’re out of here.”

– “The most frustrated person in the back every single night is Triple H. He’ll always take, especially the NXT guys, under his wing. It looks like he’s consoling them. It looks so much like he was the most frustrated person in the building every single night.”

– The Wild Card Rule was not in the script on the morning of the show.

– The Superstar Shake-Up changed week to week and it didn’t pan out how it was originally laid out months prior. Everything changed because Vince just decided to change it.

– He talked about the turnover with so many backstage people quitting or being fired.

– SmackDown and Raw writing teams are the same for both shows. They used to be separate but that changed recently after the Shake-Up.

– The caller emphasized that the problems in WWE are not creative’s fault and Vince McMahon is the one person who deserves the blame.

– Vince wants suggestions from everyone but it never gets on TV. 99 out of 100 times you can come up with an idea for Vince and it won’t be used.

– The entire creative team has pitched to have Raw and SmackDown look completely different with different production, a different way of shooting things, etc. and McMahon shoots it down.

– Vince McMahon doesn’t keep track of what is going on with NXT. He “maybe” watches Takeover shows.

– The writers say he just watches WWE and works out and is not aware of things going on in the real world.

– The writers say there is no chance of Vince stepping down.

– Dana Brooke has been the hardest worker for the last 3 years. She goes to the Performance Center, she shows up early and helps set up the ring and she gets in the ring so she can get better. Creative will pitch something for her and she gets nothing up until recently with MITB.

– The caller offered to tell Wade Keller off the air of some cool storylines that were pitched and never used.

– The writer he talked to said, “we’re all working for Dana Warrior and it’s really awkward.”

– The WWE-Fox contract prohibits Fox from moving the show to FS1 even if the ratings drop.

– One writer is very close to quitting because he is so “unbelievably unhappy” and many of the writers are paranoid and think they are close to being fired.

– “It’s such a toxic atmosphere and it’s all because of one person.”

– When Neville walked out, there was a crazy shouting match and he flipped out on Vince McMahon and that was the last time they saw him. The writers praised Neville for being so easy to work with.

– Ideas never pan out as originally planned because writers will come up with stuff and then Vince loses interest after a week or two. He used Mojo Rawley as an example.

– The money is good and it’s a dream job for many writers but it gets frustrating. The talent is very unhappy and people are trying to get out of their contracts.

– The writers say Bruce Prichard is a pleasure to work with. “He’s a funny guy and a pleasure to work with but he’s not getting through to Vince either.”

– Shane McMahon, Triple H and Stephanie McMahon have tried to talk to Vince but it hasn’t worked.

– The people on the writing staff listens to podcasts and they hear fans bashing them. “It breaks their heart,” he said.

– Vince is in the announcer’s ear “to a sentence” and he gets on them for tiny mistakes.

– On Sami Zayn: “That’s not Sami Zayn’s promos. That’s Vince McMahon talking through Sami Zayn.”

– There are 37 total writers and they are now working on both shows.

– NBCUniversal and FOX both want the top stars.

– Andrade went into Vince’s office and asked for a legit push. Vince looked at him and said, “learn some English and get back to me.” Andrade spoke some English last week and he’s been taking English lessons.

– The Firefly Fun House stuff is all Bray Wyatt’s idea. Bray is described is an “absolute genius” and he helps other wrestlers with their promos. “He’s one of the best guys in the locker room.”

– The writers he talked to say they loved when there was a real brand split.

– He mentioned The Revival/Usos storyline being done because Vince just thinks its funny.

– Some of the writers think Road Dogg will eventually end up in AEW. (Note: Road Dogg is currently on hiatus and there’s no word on when he will be back or what he would be doing if he returns).

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Post by Casciavit on Thu May 16, 2019 1:56 am

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:My MITB winners list is very short.

It's either Andrade or Zayn, Andrade because i feel like if he was actually allowed something to push momentum he can be great.

He's fantastic in the ring, Zelina Vega is awesome on the mic but they haven't given him anything to build off from.

Zayn because his body of work absolutely deserves it, don't really want to see it on anybody else in the match.


I like Andrade but I doubt he'll win. He gets no reaction despite him being very talented. Sami Zayn seems like the no-brainer. Strowman will probably take out Drew and Corbin during the match.

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Post by Casciavit on Thu May 16, 2019 1:58 am

@M99 wrote:
– On Sami Zayn: “That’s not Sami Zayn’s promos. That’s Vince McMahon talking through Sami Zayn.”

This is probably the most obvious one. It's the same way he had Ambrose telling the fans that they stink and he needed to protect himself from the fans' diseases.

Zayn has done it with a lot more conviction though. Laughing

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Post by Casciavit on Thu May 16, 2019 2:03 am

Also, AEW just announced their new TV deal with with TNT. TNT is the same TV network that WCW used to be on as well.

It reaches around 80% of households in the USA. That's roughly the same amount that the TV network WWE is on does too (USA network). They're also going to use B/R Live as their new streaming service.

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Post by Casciavit on Thu May 16, 2019 2:05 am

Interesting time to be a wrestling fan, I hope they succeed, not so much because I'm anti-WWE but because then everyone will raise their game if they do.



When Mox comes in at #21 in the battle royale. Proud

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu May 16, 2019 2:11 pm

@Casciavit wrote:
@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:My MITB winners list is very short.

It's either Andrade or Zayn, Andrade because i feel like if he was actually allowed something to push momentum he can be great.

He's fantastic in the ring, Zelina Vega is awesome on the mic but they haven't given him anything to build off from.

Zayn because his body of work absolutely deserves it, don't really want to see it on anybody else in the match.


I like Andrade but I doubt he'll win. He gets no reaction despite him being very talented. Sami Zayn seems like the no-brainer. Strowman will probably take out Drew and Corbin during the match.


He gets no reaction because they haven't gave him anything but matches here and there lol, also wouldn't be the first time they used MITB to push someone who wasn't getting a reaction.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon May 20, 2019 6:38 pm

This company is hilarious.

We've got a new company promising new things etc, ratings at an all time low, fans screaming for change, people busting their asses in the main event.

What do they do, have Brock Lesnar come down and win MITB LMAO.

They will never learn as long as Vince is still breathing.
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Post by RealGunner on Mon May 20, 2019 10:06 pm

Ratings has been ass without Lesnar. Watch them go up again now he won the MITB.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon May 20, 2019 10:36 pm

@RealGunner wrote:Ratings has been ass without Lesnar. Watch them go up again now he won the MITB.



They've been declining for years, with or without Lesnar lol.

I would be surprised if you see any discernable difference, maybe for one week you see a tiny bump but aside it will be same as usual.

The sooner people realise that (Vince included) the ratings suck because its awful television that people are tired of accepting their bullshit and not any talent the better.
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Post by Casciavit on Sat May 25, 2019 10:22 am

WWE has actually gone to shite now. I mean it wasn't good before and it was always crappy but the current programs and format of the show (wildcard ugh) have really taken it to a new low.

At least Double or Nothing is tomorrow though.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sat May 25, 2019 10:56 am

I'm keeping a keen eye on AEW's show tbh, don't care about the quality of the show but i'm intrigued by the format and creativity of the booking.

It will let me know how much of a viable alternative it will be.
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Post by RealGunner on Sat May 25, 2019 4:08 pm

yea kinda interested in it too
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