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Post by danyjr on Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:26 pm

@jibers wrote:
@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
@jibers wrote:Liverpool should drill Farca pretty easily tbh even with Messi on form. Much better team.

I hope farca can pull off a miracle but without the usual help they get from refs I can't see them beating pool over 2 legs.


Disagree, Barca struggles against teams which can control the midfield and are well organised.

Liverpool's midfield is absolute ass, it's a really bad matchup for them imo. The only real positives for Liverpool are their fullbacks as Messi/Coutinho/Dembele probably won't track them.

Much better team is as meaningless in H2H matchups as "world class" tbh, it's about how you matchup with the other team and they match up really badly.


Barca struggle without Messi it's simple and their attack flows through him. Look how they struggled when they played us in both legs. It took individual errors for them to beat us. In the forst leg when we stopped Messi they did fuck all.

Liverpool CM might not be 'technical' but they can cover a lot of ground and stop Messi from deep.

Another big diff is that Pool can cede possession to Barca and comfortably defend deep and counter attack as they have the pace and technical ability to do so.

Barcas MF is 'superior' on paper but they are disjointed and easy to bypass for a team like Pool.

Only thing I can see is if Messi has a miracle game and the ref plays the Xavi role for Barca.
Agree with everything. As they did with City last year in CL.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:29 pm

Yeah because that's worked for Madrid wonderfully over the years lmao.

They don't lose to teams that just sit back and counter attack, if Liverpool do that they'll lose very easily.

Fortunately i doubt they are that dumb.
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Post by Unique on Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:29 pm

Barca got ruined by real betis this season and people are saying Liverpool have zero chance of beating them. Lol

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Post by CBarca on Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:35 pm

https://i.servimg.com/u/f63/16/72/25/30/pool10.png

Boy, this is awkward

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Post by Unique on Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:38 pm

@CBarca wrote:https://i.servimg.com/u/f63/16/72/25/30/pool10.png

Boy, this is awkward
not as awkward as asking poch for new wide backs

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Post by Lucifer on Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:38 pm

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Post by Doc on Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:38 pm

Most of Barcelona's bad results this season came against teams that actually did better than them in the midfield. Not sure why folks are brushing off Rakitic and Busquets but if Pool can find a way (cheat if you must) to curtail those two, it'll greatly help in that department. Messi is Messi but he still needs a midfield to support him. And then there is fucking Suarez, good luck with that jammy player.

As for the Betis loss, Setien had all the stars align nicely that day. The return fixture, Betis had no such luck and normal business resumed nicely.

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Post by Unique on Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:41 pm

@CBarca wrote:https://i.servimg.com/u/f63/16/72/25/30/pool10.png

Boy, this is awkward
this pretty much backs up my point. Before we played them no one gave them a chance in hell yet they won. That’s why people are dumb for saying Liverpool don’t stand a chance.

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Post by Unique on Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:46 pm

If Barca can pin back Liverpool’s wide backs Very Happy it will go a long way to stopping us playing

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Post by jibers on Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:55 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Yeah because that's worked for Madrid wonderfully over the years lmao.

They don't lose to teams that just sit back and counter attack, if Liverpool do that they'll lose very easily.

Fortunately i doubt they are that dumb.


Madrid had a lot of Luck and were nowhere as lethal

Obviously Pool won't just camp themselves in their own box. More like a press from the mf area to counter. If Pool pack the centre Messi will be ineffective and that will force Barca to play wide.

If Barca score first the game will change obviously but Pool are more than equipped to beat them.

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Post by neuro11 on Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:37 pm

interesting to see that most of the people consider Liverpool as the favorite for this tie.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:38 pm

@neuro11 wrote:interesting to see that most of the people consider Liverpool as the favorite for this tie.


Because we are not blind

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Post by BarcaLearning on Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:32 pm

Glad to see Arthur is been immense for us to make up for the aging Busquets especially, and Vidal as well, giving Busquets rests and when together on the pitch they cover a lot of the ground and do the running work that Busquets cant cover anymore. We are a better team than many rate us atm I think, and we are in good form. We have flaws, but it always feels similar to when ppl rated Man U favourites way back 2008, and then time and again, ppl give too much support to EPL since they hardly ever watch La Liga I guess?
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Post by Myesyats on Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:44 pm

@Nishankly wrote:
@futbol wrote:Liverpool is literally everything people claimed our MSN team to be. Except their front 3 is a budget version of MSN and Busquets, Iniesta, Rakitic was about 4 levels above Liverpool's midfield.


The only thing that's budgeted is the way you post.

rofl rofl

/thread until the game starts imo
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Post by Don't call me James on Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:25 pm

If Firmino is actually injured, we're gonna be in trouble at the Camp Nou. He's our second most important player after Van Dijk.

We don't have anyone decent to replace him like for like Sturridge and Origi are waaaay too big of a drop in a quality. Will have to change the system. I could see Klopp playing Keita at AM and flood the midfield and play Mane-Salah up front by themselves. Probably a 4-4-2 diamond without Firmino.

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Post by Firenze on Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:36 pm

I shit on him often to rustle the Pool fans but if Firmehno is out, it's definitely a big miss. Keeps you ticking. Elite DM.

I hope Barca utterly obliterate you but I'm expecting the opposite. Utter domination from Pool.

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Post by neuro11 on Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:44 am

@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@neuro11 wrote:interesting to see that most of the people consider Liverpool as the favorite for this tie.


Because we are not blind


yeah, but your logics are...

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Post by Unique on Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:54 am

@neuro11 wrote:interesting to see that most of the people consider Liverpool as the favorite for this tie.
lets be honest barca are the favorites for the tie. liverpool are a good team but barca squad is full of winners. liverpool are dangerous but barca have the edge imo.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:14 am

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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:30 pm

If Barça wins the treble, they should thank Nick in their celebration speech. Dude has legendary jinxing powers only second to McAgger.

Just don't be surprised if several Liverpool players come down with food poisoning under suspicious circumstances and forfeit tomorrow's game.

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Post by Firenze on Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:06 pm

Pool only lose if they bottle it. On their night, I hate to say it, I really do, they're the best team in the world by far.

Still think they're going to absolutely obliterate Barca. And yes, I'll be shamelessly living vicariously through them and talking hella shit to Myesats, Futbol etc

and talking hella shit to the Loserpool fans if Barca win :coffee:
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Post by Myesyats on Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:08 pm

I can sense the ground will be extra slippery tomorrow night

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Post by neuro11 on Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:18 pm

If you nullify Messi, Barca has nothing to offer. Klopp the mastermind and VVD the best defender surely know how to keep Messi quiet. Shame that Liverpool even don need any homework for their ex supplies. Sad easy win

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:43 pm

Obviously it's impossible to nullify Messi

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Post by Thimmy on Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:57 pm

35 year old Alessandro Nesta kept him so quiet in the first leg between them, I hardly noticed Messi was playing, to be fair. Didn't know you were in the Messi fanclub, although I have noticed you fapping over his freekicks in recent time hmm

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Post by Arquitecto on Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:59 pm

Messi CAN be pacified and examples exist aplenty.

Doesn't mean its easy or simple to do so.

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