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Post by FalcaoPunch on Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:28 pm

@halamadrid2 wrote:Juve can have Kroos. They ahould leave Ceballos and Isco the hell alone

Next season could look like this hmm

Eriksen-Casemiro-Ceballos
Isco-Hazard
ST


Oh god, please never this.

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Post by Freeza on Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:44 pm

@Doc wrote:
@rincon wrote:With Zidane back, can I take 1 Ceballos please?

Honestly didn't think anyone but, like, 3 of us liked Ceballos. Or even see potential for the very least.


I’ve felt alone with him for a long time. Solari didn’t play him enough also.

Kroos hasn’t looked like he’s given a shit all season. Wouldn’t mind selling him considering his mileage and age.

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Post by futbol_bill on Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:02 pm

Hey Doc, there already are more than three of us!!!
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Post by Doc on Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:23 pm

Myself, Freeza, Hala are the only 3 I was genuinely aware are fans of his. If there are more, great. My apologies for leaving you guys out but it's your fault still.

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Post by Doc on Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:51 pm

https://twitter.com/azizhabouria/status/1105445947109195778

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:13 pm

@halamadrid2 wrote:Juve can have Kroos. They ahould leave Ceballos and Isco the hell alone

Next season could look like this hmm

Eriksen-Casemiro-Ceballos
Isco-Hazard
ST
I am genuinely amazed at how you complained all seasons about the scoring but when you guys come up with your *dream* formations, it looks like toothless offenses lol

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Post by Valkyrja on Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:19 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:
@halamadrid2 wrote:Juve can have Kroos. They ahould leave Ceballos and Isco the hell alone

Next season could look like this hmm

Eriksen-Casemiro-Ceballos
Isco-Hazard
ST
I am genuinely amazed at how you complained all seasons about the scoring but when you guys come up with your *dream* formations, it looks like toothless offenses lol


Leaving scoring aside, that 11 is in dier need of pace. Our entire team is actually

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Post by futbol_bill on Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:31 pm

@Doc wrote:Myself, Freeza, Hala are the only 3 I was genuinely aware are fans of his. If there are more, great. My apologies for leaving you guys out but it's your fault still.


I knew you usually ignore me!! I was a fan of Ceballos as soon as he made an impact with NT U19 team!
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Post by halamadrid2 on Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:39 pm

@Doc wrote:https://twitter.com/azizhabouria/status/1105445947109195778
Literally the funniest tweet I have ever seen. So accurate it's almost scary. The Ceballos and Bale parts had me lol'ing so hard everyone looked at me like I was crazy at work. The Lucas, Benz, Ramos and Marcelo parts Laughing if i didn't know better I would've thought these actors played our players that's how accurate thar is

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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:53 pm

@Thimmy wrote:Apparently, people have been hating on him for his thot pants Laughing

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I keep coming back to those pants. God, my sides rofl rofl rofl

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Post by Thimmy on Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:16 pm

He was so serious about coming back, he rolled up his legs instead of his sleeves.

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Post by The Madrid One on Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:30 pm

Oh i know who likes Ceballos around here alright.

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We need to make a high stakes bet between who will survive the Axe between Fede and Ceballos. Bring it.
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Post by Thimmy on Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:33 pm

For all we know, both of their futures might spell Fedup and Goodbyeos.

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Post by Zees on Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:38 am

My unrealistic dream squad for next seasano
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+ Rodrygo slowly integrated into the first team

Rough estimates pulled out of my ass
Spoiler:
Out:
Navas - 15 mil
Nacho - 20 mil
Vallejo - 10 mil
Marcelo - 15 mil
Theo - 15 mil
Kroos - 50 mil
Kovacic - 40 mil
Modric 25 mil
Isco - 60 mil
James - 35 mil (iirc)
Lucas - jk
Bale - 40 mil
RDT - 20 mil
Mayoral - 10 mil
Mariano - 20 mil
+ other academy/fringe players

Estimated total ~400 mil

In:
Hermoso - 7.5 mil (buyback)
Militao - 50 mil (buyout)
Pogba - 150 mil (Kroos + 100 mil? hmm)
Eriksen - 90 mil (last year of contract)
Hazard - 100 mil (last year of contract)
Jovic - 60 mil
Firpo/Mendy - 50 mil
Son/Sane - 100mil

Estimated total ~600 mil

Net spend of -200 mil

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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:10 pm

This is how my reaction would be if I had been in that room with Z.

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Post by sportsczy on Sat May 18, 2019 3:51 pm

https://rmcsport.bfmtv.com/football/real-madrid-zidane-brandit-la-menace-d-un-depart-1694370.html

Letting it be known that he picks the team... and decides who plays. ZZ: "If I can't do what I want, I'll leave."

The board is on notice.

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Post by Doc on Sat May 18, 2019 3:59 pm

Sure but his son is a shitty keeper and has no business being our 2nd choice. Shit.

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Post by sportsczy on Sat May 18, 2019 4:33 pm

@Doc wrote:Sure but his son is a shitty keeper and has no business being our 2nd choice. Shit.

Neither does Lucas Vasquez deserve to be on the team, let alone our starting RW.

2nd keepers never play. This is much to do about nothing.

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Post by futbol_bill on Sat May 18, 2019 4:54 pm

I have lots of hope in what Zidane will do / accomplish, but items such as these with his son shows we should be cautious with out faith!

His son is no where close to being a legitimate backup keeper. It ‘s fine if it’s the practice keeper! But alternative Lunin is also no where close as backup. He had a terrible year for a young prospect. Couldn’t win starter job at lowly Leganes and played in only 4 or 5 games. Club needs either Navas to remain or go and get a legit backup. If Zidane’s statements are essentially saying his son has as much chance as Lunin, that’s ok, but for god sake, someone should be saying we need a legit backup.

I feel the rest of club is shaping up quite well and it does seem as if Zidane and board (I hate saying board since in reality it’s Flo with some input from a few) are in sync.

Defence stays the same, with Militao taking 3rd CB spot, Nacho 4th, plus 3rd for laterals. Mendy coming to push Marcel

Midfield being totally revised with 1 to 2 new signings, Ndombele plus one of Pogba or Eriksen, plus Modric becoming rotational and Kroos probably out. Casemiro (if they play with only 2), Valverde and Isco as backups.

Front line has newcomers Hazard, Rodrygo, Jovic, plus holders Benzema, Vinicius, Lucas, either Asensio or Brahim, plus Isco. The only debate here is whether they also go for a RW.

So I don’t really see any conflict re Zidane unless he is so insistent on Pogba regardless of cost?

Bottom line if this warning to board is just about Nepotism with his son, then it’s a foolish warning!
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Post by futbol_bill on Sat May 18, 2019 4:58 pm

@sportsczy wrote:
@Doc wrote:Sure but his son is a shitty keeper and has no business being our 2nd choice. Shit.

Neither does Lucas Vasquez deserve to be on the team, let alone our starting RW.

2nd keepers never play.  This is much to do about nothing.


Sports, Lucas is a squad player, should never be starter. That we can agree but he does add value as a 24th player! Luca on the other hand is fine as a 25th, i.e. practice GK. But you need a legit backup and he isn’t that. But in fairness neither is Lunin!
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Post by sportsczy on Sat May 18, 2019 5:12 pm

Luca is the 3rd keeper... I'm more worried about the 2nd keeper. Navas should stay. Lunin isn't ready. BUT, I think it's a question of money and ZZ would rather we spend the wages/fee on sale for areas of more need.

Marca and others are trying to click bait with the Luca story.

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Post by sportsczy on Sat May 18, 2019 5:14 pm

Also Bill... i'd rather we give a kid a chance to prove us wrong rather than sign some shit keeper like Casilla just because he has experience. At least, there's hope with kids.

Lunin and Luca both have talent. Luca's issue is with balls in the air. Lunin just hasn't played.

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Post by titosantill on Sat May 18, 2019 5:57 pm

bar mourinho, in the last say 18/19 years, we haven't had a "if i can't do what i want with my team i'll leave" type of coach. and frankly, i like it. there's also a deeper meaning in that statement. there's accountability and everyone's on notice. we'll see how the market and the season going forward plays out. but at this stage we need toughness, not "i love the madrid anthem" schoolboy type of coaches

i'm not vested in the whole goalkeeper/luca thing, there's time to sort that situation out. we have more pressing matters to handle, and i hope zidane knows what he's doing in handling of those matters
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sat May 18, 2019 6:19 pm

sports, por favor, do not ever compare Lucas Vasquez to Luca Zidane, this is really an insult to Vasquez.

I know Vasquez is the butt end of jokes from madridistas from all around, but let's remember that he is a Castilla product who went in the deep waters of la Liga, earned a starting spot in a professional club at Espanyol and became such a key player for them that we thought wise to bring him back. Lucas earned every single minutes of his playtime in Madrid on the pitch, doing what's required doing the dirty work, and being good. Yes he is limited, no one will remember him like a premier player but he is an accomplished player who serviced us in some of our biggest champions league matchups, well.

Luca Zidane has literally done nothing. His blunders playing for Castilla are iconic, the number of them is ridiculous over the past two years. He is a mediocre keeper. If he wants to play for us, he should go out on loan, and earn that shit on the pitch like everyone. That's it.

On the subject of keepers, I hope Keylor won't find a new club and will stay, his 5 mil net wages are prohibitive for many clubs, specially given his age and mixed reputation.

Leganés stand yo lose their starting keeper and want to keep Lunin, who is likely to start for them.

This is the scenario I want: Courtois starts; back up Keylord; Castilla keeper is 3rd GK (Belman is better than Luca); Lunin plays for Leganés; Luca Zidane goes out to prove himself

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Post by futbol_bill on Sat May 18, 2019 6:19 pm

@sportsczy wrote:Also Bill... i'd rather we give a kid a chance to prove us wrong rather than sign some shit keeper like Casilla just because he has experience. At least, there's hope with kids.

Lunin and Luca both have talent. Luca's issue is with balls in the air. Lunin just hasn't played.


I don’t think I’ve said anything different Sports, that neither Luca nor Lunin are ready to be backup. Where we disagree is that Luca has talent! Have you seen him play at Castilla? Or viewed the “ turn away from shot” video that Nick posted?

Also disagree with Casilla. We need someone like him if Navas does leave.
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Post by sportsczy on Sat May 18, 2019 7:08 pm

I've see Luca Zidane at youth NT levels in France. He has talent. A lot of it.

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