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Post by Mamad Sat 06 Oct 2018, 20:23

Can the season end already.

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Post by Zees Sat 06 Oct 2018, 20:24

Should've listened to those Porto fans man.
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Post by titosantill Sat 06 Oct 2018, 20:24

:facepalm:
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Post by Mamad Sat 06 Oct 2018, 20:25

I saw the first half and the performance reminded me of Spain in world cup.

just passing the ball without knowing what to do.

and Nacho as LB Laughing
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Post by Doc Sat 06 Oct 2018, 20:26

Sigh, Lope and me had the same look when that goal went in. Unlike me though, Lope would probably lose his job soon. What was Conetois doing is beyond me. What was any defender doing for that corner is beyond me. Madrid are in crisis mode and it's gonna be fun reading all the comments on Madrid forums.

At least Utd came back from 2-0 down.
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Post by Freeza Sat 06 Oct 2018, 20:26

Imagine thinking Isco isn't our best player rofl
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat 06 Oct 2018, 20:27

Lopetegui is of his depth. He was supposed to come in and revolutionise our way of playing but it's a carbcarbom copy of ZZs without the urgency. Rubbish. Give me Raul or Guti
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Post by Doc Sat 06 Oct 2018, 20:28

halamadrid2 wrote:Lopetegui is of his depth. He was supposed to come in and revolutionise our way of playing but it's a carbcarbom copy of ZZs without the urgency. Rubbish. Give me Raul or Guti

Which sucks because it didn't start off like that at all. Sigh, he can actually be fired before December.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat 06 Oct 2018, 20:28

in this form, i can't see how we get a point against barca, this is just terrible. The team looks like they dont have any idea what to do with the ballor how to create chances, no one is running, it's all lethargic and disappointing.

From the players, no one is stepping up. not modric, not kroos, not bale, not benzema. Asensio is average when he can't unleash his shot...
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat 06 Oct 2018, 20:29

We need attackers and the club goes out to buy this buffoon of a goalkeeper
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat 06 Oct 2018, 20:30

Asensio Laughing not even good enough to be a super sub.

The international came at a perfect time for us because we'd lose the title in October otherwise
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Post by Freeza Sat 06 Oct 2018, 20:31

halamadrid2 wrote:We need attackers and the club goes out to buy this buffoon of a goalkeeper


Does everything have to be about Courtois?

Like seriously Laughing
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Post by titosantill Sat 06 Oct 2018, 20:32

i'm still waiting to see the so called tactics lope is supposed to impliment, that fans have been going on about. he is in a tough situation now, because if he indeed had ideas, it seems he doesn't have the players to impliment them.....and it seems he never asked for such players. this is going to be a long season..
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sat 06 Oct 2018, 20:32

I missed the first half and I wish I had missed the second as well.

Madrid are certainly digging their own grave.
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Post by sportsczy Sat 06 Oct 2018, 20:33

halamadrid2 wrote:Asensio Laughing not even good enough to be a super sub.

The international came at a perfect time for us because we'd lose the title in October otherwise

Same exact record as least year at this time.

Problem is we're not creating chances. Last year, our strikers got a ton of chances but just couldn't hit the side of a barn. This year, i can't say we've been wasteful because there isn't anything to waste!
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat 06 Oct 2018, 20:35

Freeza wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:We need attackers and the club goes out to buy this buffoon of a goalkeeper


Does everything have to be about Courtois?

Like seriously Laughing
Wish it wouldn't. He talks the talk but he is far from good enough for our team. No mans land yet again. Rubbish keeper that we didn't need. As the goals continue to trickle in at a faster rate, the goals have dried up quite considerably. 2+2
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Post by Doc Sat 06 Oct 2018, 20:36

I mean, the fk is happening? Nick is right, no one is stepping up at all. We can't create and if not for Varane, we ain't too good at defending. Would firing Lope really solve anything?
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Post by Freeza Sat 06 Oct 2018, 20:36

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halamadrid2 wrote:Asensio Laughing not even good enough to be a super sub.

The international came at a perfect time for us because we'd lose the title in October otherwise

Same exact record as least year at this time.

Problem is we're not creating chances. Last year, our strikers got a ton of chances but just couldn't hit the side of a barn. This year, i can't say we've been wasteful because there isn't anything to waste!


I don't know. Against Sevilla we had plenty of chances. Atletico could've been finished off easily as well.

These past games against CSKA and Alaves though. Never dangerous and there isn't a single offensive player doing anything.

Kroos might be the most lazy player when things aren't going according to plan. It's awful to watch.
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Post by Mamad Sat 06 Oct 2018, 20:37

We can't create.

yeah running behind defenders and having a killer CF is important but even if you put Nistelrooy there he can't score without being served.
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Post by Doc Sat 06 Oct 2018, 20:38

Freeza wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:We need attackers and the club goes out to buy this buffoon of a goalkeeper


Does everything have to be about Courtois?

Like seriously Laughing

I personally never rated him and like to bad mouth every chance I get so I'm very bias against him. However, for that corner, he was in no man's land. Not sure what he was trying to do. Not really his fault we had such a bad result though, Lope and our mids and attackers take up the majority of the blame.
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Post by Mamad Sat 06 Oct 2018, 20:39

We have problem against teams who sit deep.
we have problem against teams who press our midfield.
we have problem against teams who press high.

4 games without a goal. lol.
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Post by titosantill Sat 06 Oct 2018, 20:39

The Demon of Carthage wrote:I missed the first half and I wish I had missed the second as well.

Madrid are certainly digging their own grave.


you didn't miss anything, just people passing the ball, nothing to see there really. newsflash to all , 'good football' is not limited to passing the ball alone, there are other things you can develop to be effective and entertaining than just passing

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Post by halamadrid2 Sat 06 Oct 2018, 20:43

I an convinced that what this team needs is a man manager. Not tactician. No tactician has survived the hot seat they have all been sacked. Two our most successful ones have been poor tacticians but great in the dressing room. We need a big personality, somebody who's been there and done it. We are playing worse now than we did last season and Lope has merely been with us for 3 months
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat 06 Oct 2018, 20:45

that's the thing, i dont know if there is a fix. If you fire lopetegui there is no magical coach that comes in and fixes everything. Maybe it will come down to renewing the entire team with new players.

This group won so much but now i feels like they dont want to try as hard. they were acting the same last season to be honest.

Modric, Kroos and Casemiro are so lethargic in midfield it's infuriating. No one is accelerating the game. football go in cycle, maybe it's easier to accept the down cycle and wait a bit for a new team to form.
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Post by titosantill Sat 06 Oct 2018, 20:49

@hala, whilst i agree with your point, and whilst i've always maintained that stance (since we hired rafa, so its not hindsight), this isn't an issue of man managing, the team was on its last legs even with cristiano, i don't care what players attend some football gala, the team needs reshuffling and not reshuffling with a bunch of kids still in diapers. we need some stars, some footballers with personality and some minor back ups. its now an issue of personnel
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Post by Mamad Sat 06 Oct 2018, 20:50

Mr Nick09 wrote: football go in cycle, maybe it's easier to accept the down cycle and wait a bit for a new team to form.


Yep.
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