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Post by Art Morte on Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:42 am

EU would have to accept and the UK would need to provide some valid reasons. But if the UK said something like "we need time to arrange a 2nd referendum" I think the EU would accept. Doesn't look like the UK is going to ask postponement just to negotiate more.

Of course you cannot trust online comments, but what's interesting is that on every BBC article on Brexit where comments are just available, it's pro no-deal comments that consistently get the most upvotes. I get that on sites like the Daily Mail that is the case, but the BBC is as neutral as it gets in the UK.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:47 am

Isn't no deal happening if nothing else is decided or delayed?

Whether they vote against it or not

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Post by rincon on Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:51 am

No deal would be a ridiculous disaster by the UK
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:55 am

@Art Morte wrote:EU would have to accept and the UK would need to provide some valid reasons. But if the UK said something like "we need time to arrange a 2nd referendum" I think the EU would accept. Doesn't look like the UK is going to ask postponement just to negotiate more.

Of course you cannot trust online comments, but what's interesting is that on every BBC article on Brexit where comments are just available, it's pro no-deal comments that consistently get the most upvotes. I get that on sites like the Daily Mail that is the case, but the BBC is as neutral as it gets in the UK.


The BBC might be neutral, but people who comment under news websites are not.

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Post by Unique on Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:43 am

@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@Art Morte wrote:EU would have to accept and the UK would need to provide some valid reasons. But if the UK said something like "we need time to arrange a 2nd referendum" I think the EU would accept. Doesn't look like the UK is going to ask postponement just to negotiate more.

Of course you cannot trust online comments, but what's interesting is that on every BBC article on Brexit where comments are just available, it's pro no-deal comments that consistently get the most upvotes. I get that on sites like the Daily Mail that is the case, but the BBC is as neutral as it gets in the UK.


The BBC might be neutral, but people who comment under news websites are not.


rofl rofl rofl rofl

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Post by VivaStPauli on Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:08 am

@Unique wrote: rofl rofl rofl rofl

Yes, I guess someone like you might be offended that reality has a left-wing bias...

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Post by Unique on Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:11 am

@VivaStPauli wrote:
@Unique wrote: rofl rofl rofl rofl

Yes, I guess someone like you might be offended that reality has a left-wing bias...
the funny thing is the BBC are neutral. rofl rofl rofl the fact that left wing guys like you are happy to give up your identity and country to anyone from from any shit hole in the world is sad. Crying or Very sad

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Post by Doc on Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:59 am

Well, after you guys pillaged said countries into shit holes, for the very least, they should return the favour. Brown people have dreams too you know.

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Post by Unique on Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:16 pm

@Doc wrote:Well, after you guys pillaged said countries into shit holes, for the very least, they should return the favour. Brown people have dreams too you know.
we didnt pillage anyone into a shit hole. religion pillaged these people into a shit hole. but anyone that has a dream has to give up on religion. its impossible to have a dream when a idioligy is doing the thinking for you and that goes for every colour in the world.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:58 pm

Wtf are you taking about. The British empire committed genocide multiple times, regardless of their religion

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Post by Unique on Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:47 pm

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:Wtf are you taking about. The British empire committed genocide multiple times, regardless of their religion
when and where.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:04 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_of_indigenous_peoples#British_Empire

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Post by Unique on Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:44 am

And there’s me thinking we were talking about the here and now with brexit and the bias BBC.

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Post by VivaStPauli on Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:46 pm

@Unique wrote:And there’s me thinking we were talking about the here and now with brexit and the bias BBC.


You obviously weren't.
And now obviously are trying to safe face.

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Post by Unique on Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:03 pm

@VivaStPauli wrote:
@Unique wrote:And there’s me thinking we were talking about the here and now with brexit and the bias BBC.


You obviously weren't.
And now obviously are trying to safe face.
tbh I thought he was gonna say some shit like the Iraq war or something. And I don’t try to save face to anyone about anything. Doing that would imply that I would turn coat on things I believe just to say things that people like you want to hear. I would rarther die than do that. We just have different opinions on things. I think the people of my country should come first. You don’t give a shit about your people and country. That’s if the country you are living in is actually your own country.

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Post by Unique on Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:04 pm

Downing Street has said it is "completely unacceptable" to describe Gibraltar as a "colony", after the term was used in an EU document.

On Friday, EU ambassadors agreed to allow UK citizens visa-free travel to the continent - even after a no-deal Brexit.

But the proposal prompted a fresh row over "The Rock" a dispute developed after Gibraltar was referred to as "a colony of the British Crown" in the same EU document.

Reportedly inserted at the request of Spain,

bit petty from the spanish tbh. they act like a child thats just had its sweets taken away Laughing

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Post by rincon on Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:31 pm

I mean it is a colony of the UK. The UK controls them and they can't vote for UK politics. Either give them full rights or set them free, otherwise it's a colony.
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Post by Art Morte on Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:43 pm

Of course it's a colony, that rock is a stone's throw away from Spain and hundreds of kilometres from Britain. If Spain owned Isle of Man the UK would be saying that that's a colony.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:50 pm

Alternative title: "EU agrees with member state that piece of land in continental Europe claimed by non-member state is a colony"

How could they have done any other way?

I wonder what the UK would do if Spain invades Gibraltar on May 30th, not that it would ever happen

In other news, the Swedish anti-EU party has changed it's stance from "we want to leave the EU" to "we want to reform the EU", and apparently the same thing has happened in many other countries. This could be because as these parties become more popular they need to shift to the center to attract more voters or because Brexit is such a damning example no one could want the same for their own.

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Post by Unique on Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:06 am

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:Alternative title: "EU agrees with member state that piece of land in continental Europe claimed by non-member state is a colony"

How could they have done any other way?

I wonder what the UK would do if Spain invades Gibraltar on May 30th, not that it would ever happen

In other news, the Swedish anti-EU party has changed it's stance from "we want to leave the EU" to "we want to reform the EU", and apparently the same thing has happened in many other countries. This could be because as these parties become more popular they need to shift to the center to attract more voters or because Brexit is such a damning example no one could want the same for their own.
the uk would do what they always do when people invade islands that belong to them.

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Post by Unique on Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:07 am

@rincon wrote:I mean it is a colony of the UK. The UK controls them and they can't vote for UK politics. Either give them full rights or set them free, otherwise it's a colony.
99% of them voted to stay under British rule.

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Post by rincon on Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:12 am

@Unique wrote:
@rincon wrote:I mean it is a colony of the UK. The UK controls them and they can't vote for UK politics. Either give them full rights or set them free, otherwise it's a colony.
99% of them voted to stay under British rule.

Then give them citizenship. Why the hell are they not allowed to vote for UK policies but are ruled by them? That's a called a colony. 96% also voted to stay in the EU, but their votes are irrelevant for it.
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Post by Doc on Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:07 am

Gibraltar is part of the, um, British Overseas Territory. A pretty clever way to not say colony, sure it has some legal connotations attached to it too. Also, this...

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Doesn't really help with the mess that is Brexit but it's a lovely distraction from the economic anxiety that is happening.

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Post by Unique on Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:09 am

@rincon wrote:
@Unique wrote:
@rincon wrote:I mean it is a colony of the UK. The UK controls them and they can't vote for UK politics. Either give them full rights or set them free, otherwise it's a colony.
99% of them voted to stay under British rule.

Then give them citizenship. Why the hell are they not allowed to vote for UK policies but are ruled by them? That's a called a colony. 96% also voted to stay in the EU, but their votes are irrelevant for it.
i thought you just said they dont get to vote for UK politics.

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Post by Art Morte on Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:47 am

Unique wins yet another Brexit debate. No deal it is, then.
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Post by Art Morte on Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:10 am

UK politics are just wild.

Labour MPs have been warned by their party not to accept money for their constituencies in return for supporting Theresa May's Brexit deal.

Labour chairman Ian Lavery said "taking such a bribe would be fool's gold" given the Tories' record on austerity.

John Mann has urged the PM to "show us the money" with "transformative investment" in areas that voted Leave.

But the Labour MP, who backed Theresa May's Brexit deal, denied it amounted to "transactional politics".

So, it was 1 billion pounds for the DUP to form government with the tories. How about 20 million for each Labour vote towards May's deal? What a system.
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