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Post by Hapless_Hans on Wed 31 Jan 2018, 14:43

With the fantastic news of Özil's renewal today, Arsenal's attack now looks genuinely impressive on paper.

Aubameyang and Lacazette are both top strikers, with Aubameyangs output since being moved to CF by Tuchel being genuinely elite (he scored more goals in the last 2.5 seasons than Kane, Aguero, Higuain, Neymar, only Messi, Suarez, Ronaldo, Lewa and Cavani being more prolific than him).

Additionally, with Özil and Mkhitaryan Arsenal now have two top class attacking AMs who are among the most creative in the world.

However, the question arises, how do you line them up to make it work?

None of the 4 are wingers, with Mkhi being the on most adept to play wide. Aubameyang played wide under Klopp, but clearly only fully blossomed once he was put centrally. With his pace and directness, he could play Walcott-like, but why sign a superior striker to play him Walcott-like, when Walcott himself couldn't get into the formation anymore?
Lacazette has played wide too in the beginning IIRC (?), but his story is similar to PEAs.. he too moved centrally

In short, all 4 together, while potentially offering great variability, suggest a severe lack of width.

So, how do you compensate that?

Through wingbacks? Meaning 3 CBs and only ONE central midfielder? Who is that then, between Xhaka, Wilshere, Elneny?

And what about Ramsey?

Or a 4-2-3-1, putting two of LMAÖ on the wing in a slightly out-of-position situation?

Let's think about how Arsenal could line up, coupled with what you think Wenger is planning.


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Post by Jay29 on Wed 31 Jan 2018, 14:51

By not having Xhaka in the starting line-up hmm

I thought Aubameyang and Lacazette would play together, but watching Lacazette's recent performances I think he's going to drop out the side. He looks jaded and slow.

So chances are, it's going to be this:

Cech - Bellerin, Mustafi, Koscielny, Monreal - Xhaka, Ramsey, Wilshere - Ozil, Mkhitaryan - Aubameyang

But as you say, this really lacks width unless the full backs push on, and that's going to leave us vulnerable. So maybe we could this:

Cech - Mustafi, Koscielny, Monreal - Bellerin, Xhaka, Ramsey, Kolasinac - Ozil, Mkhitaryan - Aubameyang

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Wed 31 Jan 2018, 14:54

Well, if he's out of form, of course Auba can just slot in for Lacazette.
But generally, Lacazette is far too good to be discarded already, and I think him and Auba should be tried to work together if both are fit and in form.

Can't wait to see what the Mister comes up with Molenation

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Post by urbaNRoots on Wed 31 Jan 2018, 14:59

I hope Wenger is trying to recreate his 07/08 team which competed for the title with one of the best Man Utd sides ever.

DM - Wilshere
Ozil --------- Mkhi
Auba Laca

Or we're preparing to bring Brendan Rodgers and recreate his title challenging Liverpool with

Mkhi - DM - Wilshere
Ozil
Auba - Laca
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Wed 31 Jan 2018, 15:04

Maybe it's worth pointing out that Max Meyer, who's another Schalke youngster out of contract in June, and whom I just read Arsenal are alleged to be interested in, was converted from an attacking midfielder to DM by Tedesco this season.
Everyone's saying how well he has fulfilled the role, but I'm not completely buying it and I don't think he could be the missing DM in your line up. Schalke under Tedesco play a 3-5-2, so he's much more a deep lying playmaker than a destroyer in a double pivot.

The diamond like 4-4-2 shape seems most promising to me

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Post by Lucifer on Wed 31 Jan 2018, 16:52

Ramsay-------Xhaka-------Wheelchair
Ozil--------Auba---------------Mkhi
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Post by Jay29 on Wed 31 Jan 2018, 16:56

A more accurate representation of that team:

Cech

Mustafi - Koscielny


Xhaka

Wilshere

Bellerin - Ozil - Mkhiraryan - Monreal

Aubameyang

Ramsey

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Post by BarcaLearning on Wed 31 Jan 2018, 17:01

They are so gonna flop big, that name alone says it - LMAO, LOOOL LMFAO!!!!!

With Wenger Arsenal just have no hope whatsoever, been saying that for I forgot how many years now.
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Wed 31 Jan 2018, 17:09

@Jay29 wrote:A more accurate representation of that team:

Cech

Mustafi - Koscielny


Xhaka

Wilshere

Bellerin - Ozil - Mkhiraryan - Monreal

Aubameyang

Ramsey


The famous Inverted Cross formation

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Post by Myesyats on Wed 31 Jan 2018, 17:31

Thats a great line up but until Arse'ne is there I'm not optimistic
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Post by El Gunner on Wed 31 Jan 2018, 18:02

@Jay29 wrote:A more accurate representation of that team:

Cech

Mustafi - Koscielny


Xhaka

Wilshere

Bellerin - Ozil - Mkhiraryan - Monreal

Aubameyang

Ramsey


Looks about right.
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Post by CBarca on Wed 31 Jan 2018, 19:14

They should line up without Wenger to get the most out of the players tbh.

I don't look at those lineups with a lot of expectation though, epecially considering their offense is, as far as I'm concerned, the least of Arsenal's worries. Not sure why they're signing Auba when they desperately need a good CM/DM and CB

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Wed 31 Jan 2018, 19:19

Aye they should sell Sanchez and not replace him. Laughing

They absolutely needed him, just purely on the basis there's hardly any goals in the team without Sanchez.

Everyone knows they need to revamp their midfield and defence but not replacing Sanchez would be moronic.
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Post by CBarca on Wed 31 Jan 2018, 19:27

Nah you're right, my argument was flawed and revolved more around how I think revamping the mid and defense is more important than replacing Sanchez.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Wed 31 Jan 2018, 20:02

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Aye they should sell Sanchez and not replace him. Laughing

They absolutely needed him, just purely on the basis there's hardly any goals in the team without Sanchez.

Everyone knows they need to revamp their midfield and defence but not replacing Sanchez would be moronic.


Aubameyang is a far better player than Alexis Sanchez.

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Post by Peccadillo on Thu 01 Feb 2018, 01:33

thats a given
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Post by Lex on Thu 01 Feb 2018, 02:49

Doesn't matter, defence is poo

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Thu 01 Feb 2018, 09:25

@Hapless_Hans wrote:
Spoiler:
With the fantastic news of Özil's renewal today, Arsenal's attack now looks genuinely impressive on paper.

Aubameyang and Lacazette are both top strikers, with Aubameyangs output since being moved to CF by Tuchel being genuinely elite (he scored more goals in the last 2.5 seasons than Kane, Aguero, Higuain, Neymar, only Messi, Suarez, Ronaldo, Lewa and Cavani being more prolific than him).

Additionally, with Özil and Mkhitaryan Arsenal now have two top class attacking AMs who are among the most creative in the world.

However, the question arises, how do you line them up to make it work?

None of the 4 are wingers, with Mkhi being the on most adept to play wide. Aubameyang played wide under Klopp, but clearly only fully blossomed once he was put centrally. With his pace and directness, he could play Walcott-like, but why sign a superior striker to play him Walcott-like, when Walcott himself couldn't get into the formation anymore?
Lacazette has played wide too in the beginning IIRC (?), but his story is similar to PEAs.. he too moved centrally

In short, all 4 together, while potentially offering great variability, suggest a severe lack of width.

So, how do you compensate that?

Through wingbacks? Meaning 3 CBs and only ONE central midfielder? Who is that then, between Xhaka, Wilshere, Elneny?

And what about Ramsey?

Or a 4-2-3-1, putting two of LMAÖ on the wing in a slightly out-of-position situation?

Let's think about how Arsenal could line up, coupled with what you think Wenger is planning.


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Bellerin Mavropanos Koscielny Monreal
Wilshere Xhaka
Özil                     Mkhitaryan
Aubaymeyang Lacazette


All this effort just so Hans can get his silly pun out of his system

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Thu 01 Feb 2018, 15:22

What?

I care for Arsenal and their team. It's an honest thread.

As for the pun, if you mean lmaö it's not me that came up with it, someone else posted it already and it makes too much sense not to use it.

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Post by elfmeter on Sat 03 Feb 2018, 18:14

Looks like it will be more like a fearsome Oma attack.
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Post by Guest on Sat 03 Feb 2018, 18:14

Lacazette benched Shocked

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Post by Casciavit on Sat 03 Feb 2018, 21:20

I wonder which club Lacazette will join next season hmm

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Post by RealGunner on Sat 03 Feb 2018, 21:38

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Post by El Gunner on Sat 03 Feb 2018, 22:27

We're not getting rid of Lacazette.
At least not in the foreseeable future
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Post by rincon on Sat 03 Feb 2018, 22:32

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