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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:27 pm

Art Morte wrote:Yeah, Barcelona weren't amazing at all yesterday. A bit lucky to get their first goal and then a massive howler from Bravo set the stage up for an easy peasy finish.


Any team with the best player in history will look miles better with him on.

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Post by breva Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:32 pm

Barca were playing with MC. Just notice how after he missed the penalty, Neymar decided he was going to score a goal and did so going off script (holding the ball till the end). Barca could have easily scored 5-6 goals had that been their intention.
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Post by jibers Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:34 pm

Myesyats wrote:
Valkyrja wrote:When Messi turns on the style they are a completely different team. Never seen a team more dependent on one player. He makes the other 21 one players including his partners in attack look like pub players

Bla...bla...bla...

You lot lost 4-0 to a Messi-less Barcelona with Sergi Roberto playing a main role.

I would even dare to say that these ~2 months without Messi last season was the best football Barca played that season.

And yeah, he makes Suarez and Neymar look like pub players..... You did not even watch the game, I can bet my left nut...


100% he doesn't watch games. Then again this is the same jester that said Ronaldo was better than Messi

Usually people become more knowledgeable about the game when they join forum. First time I've seen a poster regress. And he wasnt the sharpest knife in the drawer before either.
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Post by Harmonica Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:37 pm

Myesyats wrote:
Bla...bla...bla...

You lot lost 4-0 to a Messi-less Barcelona with Sergi Roberto playing a main role.

I would even dare to say that these ~2 months without Messi last season was the best football Barca played that season.
Tbh Messi was the source of the 4th goal, just subbing in from long injury.

Here's actual relativity.

Harmonica wrote:
MSN vs Sevilla 15-17

15-16 BAR 5-4 SEV, no Neymar, Messi carried to win
15-16 SEV 2-1 BAR, no Messi, loss
15-16 BAR 2-1 SEV, MSN fit, Messi with individual goal
15-16 SEV 0-2 BAR, no Suarez, Messi carried to win
16-17 SEV 0-2 BAR, no Neymar, Messi best player on field
16-17 BAR 3-0 SEV, no Neymar or Suarez, Messi best player on field

Which isn't to say Barca is bad without Messi, just that they aren't as good, shocking that is.

Argentina is whole different situation though, they are awful without Messi.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:59 pm

IMO Barca would struggle big time to win the league and CL without Messi, Suarez, Iniesta, Rakitic, Busquets, Pique, Neymar.

It would become apparent then that they wouldn't be quite as good if they weren't quite as good.
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Post by Valkyrja Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:08 pm

Myesyats wrote:
Cruijf wrote:
Don't call me James wrote:Barca would struggle big time if one of the big 3 misses a whole season due to injury. They are so reliant on the 3 of them to basically do everything on offense.

There's absolutely no other offensive gameplan other than give the ball to the big 3. It's a good plan when you've got these 3 playing of course. But when they are out the team will struggle.

What an idiotic post. As if any big team wouldn't struggle if one of their best players was missing?

Not to mention Messi was missing for 2 months last season and Barca was amazing.

THANK YOU.

Valkyrja wrote:When Messi turns on the style they are a completely different team. Never seen a team more dependent on one player. He makes the other 21 one players including his partners in attack look like pub players

Bla...bla...bla...

You lot lost 4-0 to a Messi-less Barcelona with Sergi Roberto playing a main role.

I would even dare to say that these ~2 months without Messi last season was the best football Barca played that season.

And yeah, he makes Suarez and Neymar look like pub players..... You did not even watch the game, I can bet my left nut...


That 4-0 was against a Rafa-coached Madrid who most probably wasn't even coaching them.

Here you have it, how Barca won the CL in 2011



and in 2015



Neymar and Suarez Laughing

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Post by Myesyats Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:07 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:IMO Barca would struggle big time to win the league and CL without Messi, Suarez, Iniesta, Rakitic, Busquets, Pique, Neymar.

It would become apparent then that they wouldn't be quite as good if they weren't quite as good.

Haha Valkryja's logic summed up nicely!

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:02 pm

Ordinary GK
Ordinary defense
Ordinary midfield
Ordinary coach
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Post by Sri Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:04 pm

... still gonna be among the semi finalists in CL

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Post by RealGunner Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:36 pm

Hurts my eyes to see the current state of Barcelona's midfield.

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Post by Valkyrja Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:38 pm

They'd fight for the 3rd place in la Liga without Messi
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:38 pm

All that money spent and they still haven't been able to upgrade their bench Laughing
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Post by Collblanc Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:38 pm

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Post by Harmonica Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:40 pm

Barca were stolen a penalty by Viktor "Manchester" Kassai and City scored a hand goal gifted by Viktor "Manchester" Kassai, that's 2-2. But we were actually in control of the game at 0-1, then Roberto and Busquets started their City tapping.
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Post by Firenze Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:42 pm

stergen might be the worst gk at an elite club
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Post by Winter is Coming Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:44 pm

Harmonica Laughing

City were denied 2 PK.
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Post by Harmonica Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:45 pm

Why are you even here? Go watch some Guardiola porn. Laughing
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Post by Valkyrja Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:46 pm

LOL Harmonica rofl
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Post by Lucifer Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:48 pm

U mean repeat telecast of this match, harmonica?

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Post by Harmonica Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:51 pm

Nah, this was Kassai's Rape Files, vol. 2.
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Post by Lucifer Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:52 pm

Laughing

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Post by titosantill Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:54 pm

Firenze wrote:stergen might be the worst gk at an elite club


lol but "he uses his feet"
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Post by Doc Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:59 pm

Their midfield selection, without Iniesta, look incredibly uninspiring. And to make matters worst, Busquets looks like he belongs at Espanyol than Barcelona at the moment.

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Post by The Demon of Carthage Tue Nov 01, 2016 10:01 pm

They're not ordinary, they're one of the best teams in the world and one of the favorites for this year's CL and La Liga.

Just because they lost to City, doesn't mean they're ordinary. It happens in football.

What's patently obvious though is that there's a huge difference between Barça's regular starters and their bench. The players they bought in the summer aren't good enough to take up the torch from Iniesta and Piqué.



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Post by Winter is Coming Tue Nov 01, 2016 10:09 pm

Harmonica wrote:Why are you even here? Go watch some Guardiola porn. Laughing


This match was enough for me.
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Post by Harmonica Tue Nov 01, 2016 10:20 pm

And it shows. rofl
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