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rwo power wrote:Tiger Gerland is still the assistant, and I bet he'll be able to convince his new boss to put some faith in the kids.Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:I do see why Bayern spent the money on him though, if their manager wasn't Ancelotti anyway
So...did he?
Also, would hold up on the flop tag line till Bayern sells him to Dortmund/Wolfsburg for a huge fraction of the cost they paid. Young man still has time on his contract. Too bad he has a manager who really isn't known for trust in young players.
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time to scout this flop
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60 mil for this 26 years old you have really done it Bayern
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still a massive flop but he was always gonna play out like this with Carlo around at Bayern
quite a baffling kneejerk buy from Buyern though...a lot of talk about him leaving this summer, wonder where he ends up
I would take him for 20m
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Anyone who is going to get this lad for 15-20 m this summer should thank us tbh.
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Glory wrote:Lol United played our part in this I think. We were chasing the lad for like a month and Portuguese papers were already finalizing the details of the deal. Then, the Benfica- Buyern match happened and Pep after having like an epiphany raced ahead and grabbed him.
Anyone who is going to get this lad for 15-20 m this summer should thank us tbh.
Lmao as if you had any *bleep* clue how high profile football transfers really go down
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Admit it, Bayern's young players, especially young foreign players wont get a chance with you guys.
First Hojberg and now Sanches.
Better stick to monopolizing the league and taking all the best local German talents from smaller teams.
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Let's start with 'Pep' 'grabbing' a player for the next season when he's not coach anymore.
And generally, transfers like that are in the making for months and months.
The BS media dramaturgies that you seem to take at face value ("club x after player z".. " terms agreed".. "WHAT IS TAKING SO LONG?".."club y now in for z as well" ... "player z has told teammates if y does not make CL, he'll go to x".. "WHY DON't WE SIGN HIM ALREADY, HE TOLD HIS TEAMMATES HE WANTS TO") are just that, media BS.
Though of course, if you spend too much time on RedCafé, you're going to get caught up to a point where you think things actually happen like that.
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Renato Sanches has been named on the bench for Portugal’s first U21 Euros match vs. Serbia. pic.twitter.com/JY8rzu6Fuj
— Squawka News (@SquawkaNews) June 17, 2017
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Big fan of Renato Sanches passing the ball to a Carabao logo and Paul Clement shouting: “*bleep*’ hell Renato” pic.twitter.com/0KFBrF4fCS
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The OP is definitely not me. Frenzy must have hacked my account that night. It's a more logical explanation.
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RealGunner wrote:Big fan of Renato Sanches passing the ball to a Carabao logo and Paul Clement shouting: “*bleep*’ hell Renato” pic.twitter.com/0KFBrF4fCS
— Elliot Hackney (@ElliotHackney) November 29, 2017
Good to see that he did pick up something from his teammates at Bayern after all
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Hate them and i hate most of the Serie A contingent whom rate anyone who so much as farts in Serie A, guys like rincon, milantildeath, juveman17, the US Serie A fans on twitter who only watch MLS and Serie A, etc
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Kaladin wrote:Milan fans were clamorong for him this summer
Hate them and i hate most of the Serie A contingent whom rate anyone who so much as farts in Serie A, guys like rincon, milantildeath, juveman17, the US Serie A fans on twitter who only watch MLS and Serie A, etc
Tbf most of this comes from actually enjoying football. When you enjoy the game you can rate many players and see the positives. Rating a player doesn't mean he will win the BdO. Serie A is more than the scudetto. A player that is good for a small team like Chievo or Milan deserves to be rated in their context, doesn't mean he is good enough Juve of course.
You were young once and in love with De Sciglio and El Shaarawy. Rediscover that joy brother Kaladin.
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RealGunner wrote:Big fan of Renato Sanches passing the ball to a Carabao logo and Paul Clement shouting: “*bleep*’ hell Renato” pic.twitter.com/0KFBrF4fCS
— Elliot Hackney (@ElliotHackney) November 29, 2017
oh.
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rincon wrote:Kaladin wrote:Milan fans were clamorong for him this summer
Hate them and i hate most of the Serie A contingent whom rate anyone who so much as farts in Serie A, guys like rincon, milantildeath, juveman17, the US Serie A fans on twitter who only watch MLS and Serie A, etc
Tbf most of this comes from actually enjoying football. When you enjoy the game you can rate many players and see the positives. Rating a player doesn't mean he will win the BdO. Serie A is more than the scudetto. A player that is good for a small team like Chievo or Milan deserves to be rated in their context, doesn't mean he is good enough Juve of course.
You were young once and in love with De Sciglio and El Shaarawy. Rediscover that joy brother Kaladin.
My enjoyment only comes from when my team does good, i don't care about Sassuolo playing good football or Atalanta punching above their weight. Yeah, im grumpy most of the time because Milan is doing bad. I rate many players in the game, my enjoyment doesn't factor in thoug, thats the thing. Do i enjoy Ben Arfa? Sure. Do i rate him? Not a chance. Same with Taarabt. Same with a lot of players. I prefer to use logic and comprehension when rating someone, is it logical that a midfielder is a turnover machine? Is it logical that he runs and gets disposessed 90% of the time? But yeah i can see how you rate because 'he scored goals' for Atalanta, a great metric to rate midfielders as evidenced by Nocerino.
On El Shaarawy and De Sciglio, i don't understand how this is relevant? I still rate SES somewhat, but the guys went downhill after Balotelli came/started snorting cocained.
I once rated De Sciglio, once. Never again. 3 absolutely garbage seasons in which he superseded Mexes in red cards and mistakes overrides 1 decent season.
And of course, when i rate a player i don't rate him with Ballon D'Or in mind. No idea how you surmised this. I rate many players on small teams. I rate Politano, Izzo even Robert English.
When i call someone a fraud, its because a player of his ability should not be playing for a club of such stature, some players deserve to be in the dredges. Thats why you see lots of players not showing up for big clubs and then moving to smaller teams and succeed there. Case in point: Saponara.
Look, all i'm saying is that maybe you like to look at the game with an emotional viewpoint, i personally prefer logic and calculation. If i have to be completely frank and show my true colors here, i somewhat hate the Italian media more so than the English media when it comes to banging drums on players. Heck, i hated it when they started kicking and screaming for Donnarumma, sure he turned out great. But i remember him in his first game, the media sensation was unreal. Did the English ever hype a 16 year old like this? I think maybe Zaha is the only one and he was like 20?
Anyways im ranting off here, look you see the good in players, i see the bad in players. In many ways, you are Daenyeres and i'm a pre-maniac Cersei.
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Just lacking a nihilist here so gonna throw my hat in and say imo all players are terrible, pointless creatures and they'll all decline and die one day just like we will.
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The only player that comes to mind is Kessie and he is still in Milan's career ruining machine, so who knows. When I rate a player like Papu, he sure as hell deserves to be rated. Same for Sergej two seasons ago. Rating Salah when I remember the narrative was "no good wingers in Serie A" and now he is gonna be top scorer in the EPL. Perotti to do well in a bigger team when he was at Genoa, etc.
When its young players, its one thing to be excited about good performances and another to ensure that they will be great. With Cristante, literally on the same page it says "no one should go for him". Or when I first started watching Chiesa on his good run the first thing I said was "if this is indeed his level" because you never know.
I get that its cool to hate, we all went to high school. Discussing players >>>> saying everyone is shit. Its not my fault that Milan is a banter team and you look at players through Milan-tinted glasses.
So what I'm saying is, my conscience is clean.
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I didn’t dispute whom you rate just your reasoning for the rating.
What you see in players is not what i see in players
Lets just leave it at that
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RealGunner wrote:Big fan of Renato Sanches passing the ball to a Carabao logo and Paul Clement shouting: “*bleep*’ hell Renato” pic.twitter.com/0KFBrF4fCS
— Elliot Hackney (@ElliotHackney) November 29, 2017
At first look i thought he was playing for Rubin Kazan nowadays, i guess one could say i am quite a farsighted guy
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Komm hier rein Hans
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