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Post by Vibe on Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:44 pm

Wanna take a bet he's gonna miss his PK?

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Post by Freeza on Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:46 pm

Well why not Smile

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Post by ÖMARz on Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:46 pm

already imagining the trollfest if messi is to miss.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:46 pm

HIguain didnt do good tonight, his goal is a meager consolation prize, he missed way too many chances. it happens...

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Post by Doc on Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:53 pm

Interesting predicament we got here. Higuain, despite being severely unfit did more than the supposed fitter and big game players in Tevez and Lavezzi in all their matches. However, dropping my obvious love for the player, he really didn't have a good game, had some chances that needed to be really put away.

So indeed, Vibe is correct, t'was not his best performance.

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Post by Freeza on Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:57 pm

Awesome Penalty by Higuain :coffee:

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Post by Vibe on Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:58 pm

The irony is that he missed,bumped back in by Muslera's back.
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Post by EarlyPrototype on Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:58 pm

VibeTribe wrote:Wanna take a bet he's gonna miss his PK?

Best penalty from both teams came from Higuain lol.
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Post by chad4401 on Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:59 pm

lol higs pen was lucky

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Post by EarlyPrototype on Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:00 pm

lol yeh I know I was joking.
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Post by Freeza on Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:01 pm

VibeTribe wrote:The irony is that he missed,bumped back in by Muslera's back.
it was all calculated :coffee: Very Happy

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Post by Vibe on Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:02 pm

Sorry guys,I felt like trolling but it was really not a great game.

His goal was pretty simple,however great movement to get into the chance.Rest of the game he was pretty horrible..
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Post by Freeza on Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:11 pm

well tbh all of Argentina was horible in the latter part of the game

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Post by buddytaller on Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:21 pm

Higuain played like a striker today, could have done better with his finishing but his movement was impeccable today, the same couldn't be said about his future "replacement" at Madrid, Aguero was totally lost throughout the match.

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Post by Pedram on Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:50 pm

imo aside his goal, his movement was so good too. a constant threat for Urgays defenders.
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Post by Guest on Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:10 am

Meh, meh, meh... I'll leave it at that. Of course, Argentina was meh.

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Post by Senor Penguin on Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:16 am

@buddytaller wrote:Higuain played like a striker today, could have done better with his finishing but his movement was impeccable today, the same couldn't be said about his future "replacement" at Madrid, Aguero was totally lost throughout the match.
He's always positioning himself excellently. With experience he's only going to become better ... And he's still not fully fit from the back surgery.

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Post by Guest on Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:18 am

His problem was never placement... that's always been his strength. His issue is efficiency, especially in big moments. That reared it's ugly head last night again.

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Post by guest7 on Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:20 am

@sportsczy wrote:His problem was never placement... that's always been his strength. His issue is efficiency, especially in big moments. That reared it's ugly head last night again.

Agreed. His placement and movement doesn't matter if you aren't even efficient with it. And Higuain was not efficient that game.
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Post by Senor Penguin on Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:26 am

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@sportsczy wrote:His problem was never placement... that's always been his strength. His issue is efficiency, especially in big moments. That reared it's ugly head last night again.

Agreed. His placement and movement doesn't matter if you aren't even efficient with it. And Higuain was not efficient that game.
If he can regain his usual form he won't have any efficiency problems.

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Post by Guest on Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:31 am

@Senor Penguin wrote:
omarish wrote:
@sportsczy wrote:His problem was never placement... that's always been his strength. His issue is efficiency, especially in big moments. That reared it's ugly head last night again.

Agreed. His placement and movement doesn't matter if you aren't even efficient with it. And Higuain was not efficient that game.
If he can regain his usual form he won't have any efficiency problems.

His problem when he was in full form has always been efficiency and performance in big games/moments. If he can fix that, he's improved his previous full form. He also tends to disappear from games for large periods as he's completely reliant on service from teammates. He's not an individualist at all.

All strikers have weaknesses. These are his.

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Post by Senor Penguin on Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:43 am

@sportsczy wrote:
@Senor Penguin wrote:
omarish wrote:
@sportsczy wrote:His problem was never placement... that's always been his strength. His issue is efficiency, especially in big moments. That reared it's ugly head last night again.

Agreed. His placement and movement doesn't matter if you aren't even efficient with it. And Higuain was not efficient that game.
If he can regain his usual form he won't have any efficiency problems.

His problem when he was in full form has always been efficiency and performance in big games/moments. If he can fix that, he's improved his previous full form. He also tends to disappear from games for large periods as he's completely reliant on service from teammates. He's not an individualist at all.

All strikers have weaknesses. These are his.
I think the "big game" argument is overplayed. People always refer to the Lyon game in which we were eliminated and there were 2 chances that he spurned. The one where he rounded Lloris and hit the post with an empty net was just bad luck, and the other was a shot inside the penalty area that Lloris took superbly (I don't know why people blame him for this). Against Barca, Higuain has always played pretty decently. Not spectacular but decently. We also saw it in the semis of Champions League this season - had a goal annulled and in general played very well considering his return from a serious injury. Against Milan he scored one and had a header saved off the goal-line - another occasion of bad luck that he then also had a few games earlier against Auxerre.

The big game I remember most vividly where he was really crap was against Liverpool. I hardly remember him doing anything at all. He was also pretty bad against Germany with Argentina. But as I see it, he has improved with the more experience he has gained.

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Post by guest7 on Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:45 am

@Senor Penguin wrote:
@sportsczy wrote:
@Senor Penguin wrote:
omarish wrote:
@sportsczy wrote:His problem was never placement... that's always been his strength. His issue is efficiency, especially in big moments. That reared it's ugly head last night again.

Agreed. His placement and movement doesn't matter if you aren't even efficient with it. And Higuain was not efficient that game.
If he can regain his usual form he won't have any efficiency problems.

His problem when he was in full form has always been efficiency and performance in big games/moments. If he can fix that, he's improved his previous full form. He also tends to disappear from games for large periods as he's completely reliant on service from teammates. He's not an individualist at all.

All strikers have weaknesses. These are his.
I think the "big game" argument is overplayed. People always refer to the Lyon game in which we were eliminated and there were 2 chances that he spurned. The one where he rounded Lloris and hit the post with an empty net was just bad luck, and the other was a shot inside the penalty area that Lloris took superbly (I don't know why people blame him for this). Against Barca, Higuain has always played pretty decently. Not spectacular but decently. We also saw it in the semis of Champions League this season - had a goal annulled and in general played very well considering his return from a serious injury. Against Milan he scored one and had a header saved off the goal-line - another occasion of bad luck that he then also had a few games earlier against Auxerre.

The big game I remember most vividly where he was really crap was against Liverpool. I hardly remember him doing anything at all. He was also pretty bad against Germany with Argentina. But as I see it, he has improved with the more experience he has gained.

He does miss the best chances when it matters the most... His Europe statistics talks by themselves. 6 goals in total I think
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Post by Senor Penguin on Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:05 am

omarish wrote:
@Senor Penguin wrote:
@sportsczy wrote:
@Senor Penguin wrote:
omarish wrote:
@sportsczy wrote:His problem was never placement... that's always been his strength. His issue is efficiency, especially in big moments. That reared it's ugly head last night again.

Agreed. His placement and movement doesn't matter if you aren't even efficient with it. And Higuain was not efficient that game.
If he can regain his usual form he won't have any efficiency problems.

His problem when he was in full form has always been efficiency and performance in big games/moments. If he can fix that, he's improved his previous full form. He also tends to disappear from games for large periods as he's completely reliant on service from teammates. He's not an individualist at all.

All strikers have weaknesses. These are his.
I think the "big game" argument is overplayed. People always refer to the Lyon game in which we were eliminated and there were 2 chances that he spurned. The one where he rounded Lloris and hit the post with an empty net was just bad luck, and the other was a shot inside the penalty area that Lloris took superbly (I don't know why people blame him for this). Against Barca, Higuain has always played pretty decently. Not spectacular but decently. We also saw it in the semis of Champions League this season - had a goal annulled and in general played very well considering his return from a serious injury. Against Milan he scored one and had a header saved off the goal-line - another occasion of bad luck that he then also had a few games earlier against Auxerre.

The big game I remember most vividly where he was really crap was against Liverpool. I hardly remember him doing anything at all. He was also pretty bad against Germany with Argentina. But as I see it, he has improved with the more experience he has gained.

He does miss the best chances when it matters the most... His Europe statistics talks by themselves. 6 goals in total I think
In those statistics we mostly have group games - we've played against teams that were arguably on par with or worse than Spanish teams (a few better, of course) and Higuain certainly has no problem scoring against Spanish teams. If you consider the way Raul and Van nistelrooy performed, I think Higuain did good for a 20 year old lad in Europe.

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Post by Guest on Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:18 am

@Senor Penguin wrote:
omarish wrote:
@Senor Penguin wrote:
@sportsczy wrote:
@Senor Penguin wrote:
omarish wrote:
@sportsczy wrote:His problem was never placement... that's always been his strength. His issue is efficiency, especially in big moments. That reared it's ugly head last night again.

Agreed. His placement and movement doesn't matter if you aren't even efficient with it. And Higuain was not efficient that game.
If he can regain his usual form he won't have any efficiency problems.

His problem when he was in full form has always been efficiency and performance in big games/moments. If he can fix that, he's improved his previous full form. He also tends to disappear from games for large periods as he's completely reliant on service from teammates. He's not an individualist at all.

All strikers have weaknesses. These are his.
I think the "big game" argument is overplayed. People always refer to the Lyon game in which we were eliminated and there were 2 chances that he spurned. The one where he rounded Lloris and hit the post with an empty net was just bad luck, and the other was a shot inside the penalty area that Lloris took superbly (I don't know why people blame him for this). Against Barca, Higuain has always played pretty decently. Not spectacular but decently. We also saw it in the semis of Champions League this season - had a goal annulled and in general played very well considering his return from a serious injury. Against Milan he scored one and had a header saved off the goal-line - another occasion of bad luck that he then also had a few games earlier against Auxerre.

The big game I remember most vividly where he was really crap was against Liverpool. I hardly remember him doing anything at all. He was also pretty bad against Germany with Argentina. But as I see it, he has improved with the more experience he has gained.

He does miss the best chances when it matters the most... His Europe statistics talks by themselves. 6 goals in total I think
In those statistics we mostly have group games - we've played against teams that were arguably on par with or worse than Spanish teams (a few better, of course) and Higuain certainly has no problem scoring against Spanish teams. If you consider the way Raul and Van nistelrooy performed, I think Higuain did good for a 20 year old lad in Europe.

But he didn't play regularly for Madrid until he was 21 and started when he turned 22... he has 2 goals in 14 games previous to last year in Europe and 2 goals in 4 games in pool play only this past season.

When it comes right down to it, he takes advantage of the mismatches against La Liga defenses who are in general less physical than the rest of Europe. In European play, you get bumped around and get pushed out of comfort zones a lot more... that's where he struggles. He doesn't have that extra creative flair to cope. When you miss a couple, you also get a bit of a mental problem.

He'll get there. But it is his weakness. La Liga officiating does not allow for the bumping that occurs everywhere else.

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Post by The Madrid One on Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:10 am

so what kind of health do you guys think higuain will come in at? 90 percent? 80?
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