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Post by zigra Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:17 pm

Unique wrote:
not saying i would rather have a new manager but people are calling pep a fraud who has won things at city but as of yet klopp has won nothing. i find that strange tbh.


Meh. You actually know very well that Pep is coaching the richest club in the country and has a squad available Klopp can only dream of.

Which means you're really just trolling at this point. Not really surprising to be fair.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:19 pm

jibers wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:Let's be real, City were the better team today. Pep didn't screw up, his players let him down and let a Kane-less spurs score 3 times against them. You can't really fault his line up or his tactics today. First leg is a different discussion...


Llorente was a hand ball.

Aguero is a fucking bum and does fuck all outside of scoring. Ball loss merchant.

That missed Pen ended up costing his team the tie. Literally flops in big occasions. Best striker my ass

No way that was a handball. His arm was attached to his body, if it even touched his elbow

Kun had a good showing in spite of the saved pen, but I do agree that ball stealing is what he excels at
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Post by M99 Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:20 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Let's be real, City were the better team today. Pep didn't screw up, his players let him down and let a Kane-less spurs score 3 times against them. You can't really fault his line up or his tactics today. First leg is a different discussion...


Ah of course.

urbaNRoots wrote:> Pep's team loses
> It's the players/fans/medical team/referees/weather's fault
> Pep's team wins
> BAH GAWD! GREATEST MANAGER EVERRRR
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Post by Unique Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:21 pm

zigra wrote:
Unique wrote:
not saying i would rather have a new manager but people are calling pep a fraud who has won things at city but as of yet klopp has won nothing. i find that strange tbh.


Meh. You actually know very well that Pep is coaching the richest club in the country and has a squad available Klopp can only dream of.

Which means you're really just trolling at this point. Not really surprising to be fair.
tbh i think klopp is a very good manager but to say he is one of the best or the best in the world he has to win some trophies first.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:21 pm

@M99 Except that when he lost the first leg everyone rightfully criticized him and not the players...
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Post by Ion Creanga Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:22 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Let's be real, City were the better team today. Pep didn't screw up, his players let him down and let a Kane-less spurs score 3 times against them. You can't really fault his line up or his tactics today. First leg is a different discussion...


well, you see.. That's actually the problem. When a Kane-less Spurs puts 3 past you in your home, with Llorente leading the frontline for half of the game, it's also pep's fault.
Or when Monaco puts like 7 goals on you overall or Liverpool 3 on Anfield. Is it always defender's fault?
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Post by Winter is Coming Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:24 pm

jibers wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:Let's be real, City were the better team today. Pep didn't screw up, his players let him down and let a Kane-less spurs score 3 times against them. You can't really fault his line up or his tactics today. First leg is a different discussion...


Llorente was a hand ball.

Aguero is a fucking bum and does fuck all outside of scoring. Ball loss merchant.

That missed Pen ended up costing his team the tie. Literally flops in big occasions. Best striker my ass

This should be the talking point one of the biggest frauds I've seen. Been at City almost 10 years who have sent billions in the squad has only 3 league titles and they'd have won last season in spite of him.

And when there was talk of Pep wanting to rid of him, there is your answer you ain't winning the CL with Kun leading your lineup.

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Post by Winter is Coming Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:25 pm

Ion Creanga wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:Let's be real, City were the better team today. Pep didn't screw up, his players let him down and let a Kane-less spurs score 3 times against them. You can't really fault his line up or his tactics today. First leg is a different discussion...


well, you see.. That's actually the problem. When a Kane-less Spurs puts 3 past you in your home, with Llorente leading the frontline for half of the game, it's also pep's fault.
Or when Monaco puts like 7 goals on you overall or Liverpool 3 on Anfield. Is it always defender's fault?


No Liverpool and Monaco were 100% on him. This wasn't Laporte was directly responsible for the 2 if not all 3 goals. He has been there best and consistent defender, but unfortunately for him and Pep if there was a game to drop it was this one for him.
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Post by Arquitecto Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:26 pm

Laporte has been City's best defender overall this season and it is not even close. The quintessential Guardiola defender in the back and will even get better from here.
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Post by M99 Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:32 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:@M99 Except that when he lost the first leg everyone rightfully criticized him and not the players...


He should not be blameless for this game either. A team being bad at defending has a lot to do with their coaching.
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Post by Unique Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:36 pm

pep went out to spurs tonight but he will play the same way against spurs in the lge game at the weekend and ruin them. and when they do how can you explain that.
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Post by Doc Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:41 pm

Well, technically he won the game, it finished 4-3 so that's 3 points in a league setting and I'm sure they'll take that very same scoreline over the weekend too.

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Post by Firenze Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:45 pm

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big yikes

get this fraud out of here ffs
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Post by sportsczy Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:50 pm

No pragmatism whatsoever.
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Post by Unique Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:52 pm

Doc wrote:Well, technically he won the game, it finished 4-3 so that's 3 points in a league setting and I'm sure they'll take that very same scoreline over the weekend too.

so on GL now your a fraud when you win Very Happy
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Post by Thimmy Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:57 pm

M99 wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:@M99 Except that when he lost the first leg everyone rightfully criticized him and not the players...


He should not be blameless for this game either. A team being bad at defending has a lot to do with their coaching.


Tell me who's a good coach, then. I have some blind and deaf kids here, who would benefit from learning some positional awareness. Money back guaranteed, right?

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Post by futbol Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:57 pm

In a serious game, his teams can't defend if he doesn't have once in a liftetime midfielders controlling every single aspect of the game flow. And even with the greatest modern team of all time he had to rely on refereeing decisions to advance in difficult moments (van Persie sending off, Övrebo, Pepe red card).

Applying tactics like that literally means you are a shit coach IMO.

Deal with it.

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Post by Doc Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:01 pm

Unique wrote:
Doc wrote:Well, technically he won the game, it finished 4-3 so that's 3 points in a league setting and I'm sure they'll take that very same scoreline over the weekend too.

so on GL now your a fraud when you win Very Happy

He won the battle but he lost the entire war so he is still very much fraudulent.
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Post by Doc Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:07 pm

Thimmy wrote:
M99 wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:@M99 Except that when he lost the first leg everyone rightfully criticized him and not the players...


He should not be blameless for this game either. A team being bad at defending has a lot to do with their coaching.


Tell me who's a good coach, then. I have some blind and deaf kids here, who would benefit from learning some positional awareness. Money back guaranteed, right?

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You know, ever since Uncle Ole became a world class manager, find you're a bit prickly about ppl criticising managers.
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Post by sportsczy Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:13 pm

This is a results business (like most things lol).  If you can get results with style, all the better.  But first and foremost, you need to win.

Pep is a fantastic league manager.  He's proven that.  But he's not that great of a cup manager.  In a single game or two-legged affair, you start with a gameplan BUT (and VERY importantly) adjust to the circumstances.  He just doesn't do that at all.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:20 pm

Ion Creanga wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:Let's be real, City were the better team today. Pep didn't screw up, his players let him down and let a Kane-less spurs score 3 times against them. You can't really fault his line up or his tactics today. First leg is a different discussion...


well, you see.. That's actually the problem. When a Kane-less Spurs puts 3 past you in your home, with Llorente leading the frontline for half of the game, it's also pep's fault.
Or when Monaco puts like 7 goals on you overall or Liverpool 3 on Anfield. Is it always defender's fault?


One goal was a goalkeeper mistake and another was a freak goal Llorente never meant to score... You can make an argument that Pep is ultimately responsible for fielding those players, but no one seriously suggests he should get rid of Ederson and Kompany. Don't see how you can put this particular game on him.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:31 pm

sportsczy wrote:This is a results business (like most things lol).  If you can get results with style, all the better.  But first and foremost, you need to win.

Pep is a fantastic league manager.  He's proven that.  But he's not that great of a cup manager.  In a single game or two-legged affair, you start with a gameplan BUT (and VERY importantly) adjust to the circumstances.  He just doesn't do that at all.


If anything he adjusts to the circumstances too much tbh, a lot of his failings are down to being overly cautious and making decisions which make no damn sense.

He has success when he doesn't overcompensate and doesn't adjust too much.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:36 pm

Don't worry he will be favourite to win the CL 2020 by next September. He has been the favourite for the past 6 years or so, this is his trophy


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Post by sportsczy Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:36 pm

I disagree with you Mole. I don't see Pep making very many in-game adjustments.
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Post by nasir6371 Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:07 am

IM GOING TO START BY STATING THAT THIS MAN BENCHED 2 PLAYERS THAT HAD 41 ASSIST IN ALL COMPS LAST SEASON, AND 31 ASSIST IN PL. In a away 1st leg resulting in 0 Away Goals scratch

He lost this tie in London... Don't care if Laporte had more Spurs assist than any Spur player. I don't care if we won at home or concede 3 goals.

Start KdB in London, instead of as a 89th min sub. The guy who was Head and Shoulder better than anyone else tonight and we're not here talking about players letting Pep down. Don't care about Aguero's penalty miss. We barely had any decent chances that I can remember in the 1st leg. Then he keeps start an out of form David regardless of if he needs to be rested and plays SANE FOR FK'ING 7 MINUTES IN THE WHOLE TIE. Your young player of the year. Your second highest assist provider from last year.
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Post by M99 Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:47 am

Thimmy wrote:
M99 wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:@M99 Except that when he lost the first leg everyone rightfully criticized him and not the players...


He should not be blameless for this game either. A team being bad at defending has a lot to do with their coaching.


Tell me who's a good coach, then. I have some blind and deaf kids here, who would benefit from learning some positional awareness. Money back guaranteed, right?

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Criticise Pep for not reaching a semi after spending 700 million, get called an armchair expert. Go back to what you usually do (that is incessantly annoy someone in the gaming section) while the armchair experts discuss Pep here.

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