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Post by Clutch on Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:24 pm

Apparently some players on the team found it funny. Terribly dumb on his part but its probably one of those jokes that you do and realize immediately how much trouble you're going to be in

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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:31 pm

I hated Bale, the player, but I have always liked him as a human being because he always came across as humble and likable. And even though I have always wanted Madrid to get rid of him, I felt bad at one point for him because there were times when the club, and Zidane in particular, didn't treat him that well and were downright disrespectful.

I'm talking about all those times when Zidane didn't even bother  including him in the squad. Benching him is one thing, but completely ostracizing him from the group? That was hurtful. And it's not like Zidane had an unbelievably stacked squad that only the best of the best could make it. He called up freaking Vasquez instead.

I'm also talking about the time when Zidane publicly stated that Bale wasn't called in one of their preseason games because the club "is trying to sell him". This is just him being an asshole because even if you hate Bale so much and can't stand even his mere presence anywhere around you, saying publicly that you're trying to get rid of him was a dumb, dumb move. Not only will it drive his price down but also irreversibly break your relationship (this is assuming you even had one to begin with).

Now, please do NOT think, even for a second, that I'm justifying his "Wales, Golf, Madrid" thing. That was unbelievably unprofessional and disrespectful. And I'm guessing if he went as far as doing that, it means he doesn't give a fuck anymore and wants out.

But let's stop acting like he's the mother of all that is twisted and evil. Bale sucked as a player, but was an amazing and humble human being...until recently. And the way Madrid has been mistreating him has a lot to do with him turning rogue.

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Post by futbol_bill on Wed Nov 20, 2019 4:46 pm

Amazing and humble being? On what basis do you make that statement. This is the guy that never integrated with his team mates, the guy that regularly sent his agent to Flo with demands when he never had the confidence of any of the coaches he played under. Perhaps he has shown the characteristics you mention on the golf course as he had never displayed any of them in Bernabéu nor for that matter never in Spain.

Also keep in mind he hasn’t played in past month for some mysterious injury that somehow cleared up once Gales 🏴
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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:25 pm

Lately? Sure, you're absolutely right, he has been very unprofessional and the message he put on the Welsh flag was not only unnecessary but also outright disrespectful. He also failed to fill the hole left behind by Ronaldo and overall let the coach and club down, and  didn't even seem that bothered by it.

I'm not defending him now, but I still remember very distinctly how he behaved when he was constantly benched and even at times ostracized from the squad when other players who aren't as talented as him would get included in the squad and even start at times.

Now, forget about how bad he sucks now as a player and consider this: how many 100m players and two-time PFA player of the year do you know would stay quiet without saying a word when their manager benches them for a lengthy period of time and puts them in the freezer? Then continue to train week in, week out and play through the whistles every time he plays, which is once every full moon for a couple minutes.

We've all seen players who don't come even close to his stature or accomplishments throw a tantrum for the lack of playing time and then immediately give their clubs ultimatums.

Bale's problem is that he overstayed his welcome and decided to stay even when Zidane was clear he was no longer in his plans. Any other sane player would've left a long time ago and not wait until he regresses so much that no elite club wants him (or to be more precise, elite clubs still want him but no one wants to match Florentino's evaluation and rightly so).

He has to go. I think both parties now understand this. But my point is, Bale is not entirely to blame for the obnoxious attitude he's displaying right now. His mistreatment at the hands of Madrid may have played a part in it. A big part, I might add.

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Post by sportsczy on Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:36 pm

Bale was never any good for us.  He had big moments...  but he was never a leader nor one of our most important players.  He was always a luxury.

He thoroughly deserved all his benchings over the years by several managers.

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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:46 pm

The question is not whether or not he deserved the benching. I'm sure we all agree he does.

The question is, how many big profile players with big individual and collective accomplishments would stay silent amidst constant benching and ostracizing? Not that many.

Whether we like it or not, Bale acted at one point very professional and kept his calm when most players in his position would unleash hell on their clubs.

I didn't forget that, and to this day, I still respect him for it.

The flag thing, however, is inexcusable for me and he really needs to go now. No point in staying beyond this season just to collect the paycheck. I'm sure Klopp or even Mourinho can revive his career in the PL, and it would be best for both parties to part ways now because I firmly believe Bale has no future at Madrid.

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Post by futbol_bill on Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:38 pm

Your ignoring the fact that most of his benching were due to his multiple injuries. That plus the team was definitely better with Isco was in lineup in his place under both Carlo and Zidane. Last couple of years, it has been others instead of Isco, but it was either his injuries or his poor play that resulted in the bench.

He may have come with a high price tag and salary, but he has been no way deserving or worth the price tag as evidence no one in EPL, where fans still rave about him, have made any offers for him!

He may not have beef about the benching, but he did send his mouth piece to make noise of his his complaints.

I say bunk to your “amazing and humble” characteristic statement!

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Post by halamadrid2 on Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:07 am

Bale didn't need to speak himself when he sent his idiot agent to do the talking for him. His agent eviscerated ZZ any way he could until the summer when ZZ responded to him and his view quickly changed to Bales loooooves Madrid and is happy and wants to stay bla bla bla. Don't fall for his boyscout charade

He couldn't complain about playing time because he had no legs to stand on. Benz is a good example of how the fans treat most players the same way. Before last season everyone of his touches were booed, Marca polls had him on 0.000001% staying. The fans wanted bloody Mayoral instead of him, which is the ultimate humiliation for any player. He like Bale didn't take the language seriously, was lazy and introvert

He kept his gub shut because like Bale he had no legs to stand on and look at him now, not only is he performing and scoring to make us proud but he is also loved by the fans. His name is chanted in every game

Bale had no interest to win the fans over, it's always been "they dont treat me well so feck them" he not only plays like someone is too entitled he also goes above the coach's head. That alone should set off warning bells. Not even Ronaldo did that and he was super annoying. He liked going to the press to tell them he was sad but you'd never see him disrespect the club ever. Neither did he go off to his NT and appear over happy in photos whether fake or not just to make a silly point that he is happier and more open with his NT teammates than club when one of the criticisms has been that he is an introvert because he doesn't socialise with his club teammates

If we are looking at how a person has behaved then why was James so universally disliked? He was disliked because his family liked to talk shit about ZZ and that one time he refused to shake hands with Rafa. If you think about it, that was his only sin unlike Bale who has been disrespecting the fans and club on an almost weekly basis. Nobody made excuses for him it was he deserves his ostracising and no other choice.

But Bale has had the British media and other fans calling ZZ unfair for treating him the way he does and that the fans only dislike him because he isn't Spanish which is ridiculous. Yet none of them are putting money where their mouths are to save him from the prison and instead we are lumbered with him. No I don't feel sorry for him. ZZ told him clearly he was unwanted yet he refused to leave. When Mou wanted him at Utd he didnt want to leave. Feck him let him rot on the stands and eff off from our club.

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Post by Arquitecto on Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:27 am

Hala summed it up the best from all here and the Benzema-Ronaldo comparison was key for that.

I've come to understand this is what it is to play for Real Madrid. The Galacticos of then I remember even faced such treatment from Zidane to Ronaldo to Beckham.

Practically all players have and the squad remains for what it is due to them being desensitized the pressure and normalised to the expectations that comes in what is the biggest club in the world and fans who rightfully are entitled by this point.

The victim mentality has been cast by Bale, his agent and the British media itself. He is not a victim. He just is a shit player.

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Post by futbol_bill on Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:33 am

Lol, it looks like Bale will be starting tomorrow!

Vinicius, Lucas, Brahim are out of lineup so it's either Rodrygo or Bale unless they go with a 4-4-2. I think the latter is very doubtful and Rodrygo has just arrived back from Brasil.

So let's see how he performs when fans are sure to give him a royal welcome after his flag display antics!

I predict another questionable injury will come about.
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Post by FennecFox7 on Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:09 pm

This bale situation is way overblown. I doubt ZZ or perez cares. Spanish media are a joke
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Post by chad4401 on Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:52 am

Lmao so much bs in the last couple pages, it's arguments like these is why the club is turning into a joke, bale did nothing wrong at all, Mijatović started all of this first with unnecessary comments bale laugh at it trolled him and the media, now people want to pretend like he is disrespecting the club, when teammates, ex players,etc, keep taking a dig at the guy, it's nonsense you all know it.

the fans and Spanish media has been against bale because he wasn't neymar, no matter how well he plays and crucial goals he scores, no one cares cause as usual RM fans and media can't take an L after talking shit, you guys only care about the club being respected when it comes to players you hate, when it's a player you like they can be trash and have poor attitude no one is bothered cause RM fans are full of shit.

I remember how disrespectful Madrid fans were to benzema always try to humiliate the guy over and over for bs reasons, he never reacted negatively to fans or media, that never stopped people from going overboard season after season, end of day you lot will use anything to shit on players, while scrubs like isco can be as shit as he wants and fued with the coach, fans and media backed him GTFO you are all hypocrites.


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Post by chad4401 on Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:01 am

@futbol_bill wrote:Lol, it looks like Bale will be starting tomorrow!

Vinicius, Lucas, Brahim are out of lineup so it's either Rodrygo or Bale unless they go with a 4-4-2. I think the latter is very doubtful and Rodrygo has just arrived back from Brasil.

So let's see how he performs when fans are sure to give him a royal welcome after his flag display antics!

I predict another questionable injury will come about.
 

Shut up bale has been good every game played this season and if the fans boo him so what, home fans have proven that their clueless sheep.

vini has been trash since last season, Lucas is injured wasn't that good when he played either, brahim is rusty, bale and rodrygo is the best options for RW, but as usual you don't know anything about footy, just talking shit.

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Post by Cyborg on Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:16 pm

I loved how the Bernabeu treated Bale. He deserved it completed.

He should have apologized to the fans after the game. Even if he thinks the flag was a joke, it obviously upset the fans.

The club should have told him to apologize to the fans after the sociedad game

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Post by BarcaLearning on Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:08 am

Can I just add that I always said Benzema had been unfairly criticised? Razz Finally seeing some justice. As for Bale, I dont fully understand still after all this. I still remember when he first joined, it was like a honeymoon and all smiles Very Happy I guess it turned out just many marriages, shit Razz
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Post by futbol_bill on Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:57 am

When he pulled his latest antics; not playing for over a month due to some unknown injury which he forbade club from mentioning it and then somehow miraculously recovered next time Gales came calling and then the flag insistence in which he says he prefers Gales and then golf before Madrid, these were taken as a direct shot at club and fans.

So he therefore deserved all the boos and whistles he got. The comparisons to Benzema are not valid.

Benz got booed for poor play and now that he has been playing well, he is routinely cheered by fans.

Bale on the other hand is booed not only for poor play but as much so for his antics.
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