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Post by danyjr on Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:28 pm

I also have to say I don't believe Great Leader's sale figures - I don't think they are slightly off, I think they are way off. Not saying you're making shit up but the source you've got your figures from must have been dodgy. No way Konami have ever sold 10 million PES copies in a year.

Anyway according to game sales vgchartz, PES 2013 has sold close to 1 million in Europe and North America while FIFA 13 sold more than 5 million in those regions. Obviously PES's main sale is in Japan where it has been outselling FIFA for decades and also in South America where I think they've sold around a million, but FIFA is growing in those markets too.

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=pro+evolution+soccer+2013
http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=fifa+13

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:27 pm

If you believe a well known poor source for sales figures to a publicly traded account then that's on you brah.

I just think you underestimate how massive PES is in South America and Asia.

My source isn't dodgy either lol.... my source is Konami's yearly reports lol.

Everyone knows PES struggles in Europe though.

Not like it matters anyway, they sell more than enough to make a new one every year and that really matters tbh.
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Post by Kaladin on Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:34 pm

The PES songs are quite catchy (menus)

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:35 pm

El Shaarawy wrote:The PES songs are quite catchy (menus)
Spend more than 10 mins in edit mode, you will soon get annoyed with them lol.

I turned them off in the end lolz.
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Post by •MilanDevil• on Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:16 pm

I love the PES 2010 menu and soundtrack, never get bored of it.
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Post by danyjr on Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:26 pm

No, I don't underestimate how popular PES is in South America or Asia. After all I'm from South America and I know half the people in Argentina have chipped consoles and get their games from pirate sources.

Google doesn't give me anything on Konami's PES 2013 sales. Link pls?

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Post by FalcaoPunch on Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:54 pm

Playing against AI is the most boring and dreadful thing.
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Post by moutinho98 on Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:40 am

@FalcaoPunch wrote:Playing against AI is the most boring and dreadful thing.

lol u obviously haven't played against ai in pes.

fifa vs ai is awful. always the same I hate it.
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Post by FalcaoPunch on Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:05 am

@moutinho98 wrote:
@FalcaoPunch wrote:Playing against AI is the most boring and dreadful thing.

lol u obviously haven't played against ai in pes.

fifa vs ai is awful. always the same I hate it.
I have.
Same crap as fifa. Only difference is that it looks nicer on fifa.

Equally as bad though.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:18 am

It really isn't.... its not perfect but i find playing the AI very rewarding and enjoyable.

Obviously not on the lower difficulties though, its one of the main reasons i play PES over Fifa i prefer to play AI or local on the same system against mates.

I can't stand playing single player on Fifa its boring, i don't feel that way on PES i find the single player very enjoyable never really had the urge to play online.

But i'm not surprised you feel that way, from your past posts it sounds like you don't like the gameplay of PES 2013 and if you don't like the gameplay then obviously its not going to be enjoyable.
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Post by FalcaoPunch on Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:36 am

I'm probabaly with fifa now because of pro club they're gameplay needs an overhaul it's so repetitive now haha

And too many players I've come against all try to use the exploits, so it takes all the fun out.

I've maybe only faced 4 or 5 quality players ever.
Even MT is a cheap fifa player rofl
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Post by danyjr on Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:25 am

I used to love playing PES vs CPU but in PES 2011 there was a point where on higher difficulties you could see the CPU was blatantly cheating - Luca Toni outpacing Clichy and opposing team scoring as soon you scored one every time are my favourites. I haven't really played vs CPU since then so I don't know how 2013 has been in that regard.

No point playing FIFA vs CPU though, it utterly blows.

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Post by danyjr on Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:54 pm

Played around 20 matches on the PS3 Demo this weekend. You can see quite a few improvements from 2013 here and there, but if FIFA is anything close to encouraging you to neglect the midfield, this PES demo MAKES you forget about midfield and build up altogether. Release player, chipped through ball, rinse, repeat. Too easy.

I really, really hope I see some massive improvements in the new demo. Oh, and goalkeepers are still in an unacceptable state. For 3rd year running.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sun Sep 08, 2013 2:14 pm

@danyjr wrote:Played around 20 matches on the PS3 Demo this weekend. You can see quite a few improvements from 2013 here and there, but if FIFA is anything close to encouraging you to neglect the midfield, this PES demo MAKES you forget about midfield and build up altogether. Release player, chipped through ball, rinse, repeat. Too easy.

I really, really hope I see some massive improvements in the new demo. Oh, and goalkeepers are still in an unacceptable state. For 3rd year running.
According to people who played the Gamescon build.... press, public etc etc the major improvements were.

Goalkeepers, input lag, more responsive and defensive awareness.( there was other stuff too but my mind forgets it) I'll guess we will find out on Wednesday in any case.

I agree with you btw, that build of that demo has quite a few issues even if the base game is very good IMO much better than 2013 in any case hopefully those improvements mentioned come to pass.

Also one last thing about the goalkeepers.... lets be real here have they EVER been good lol? even in PS2 era they were crap tbh.
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Post by danyjr on Sun Sep 08, 2013 2:52 pm

FIFA 14 demo September 10
PES 2014 demo September 11
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:42 pm

PES 2014 game modes list:
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http://www.onlyproevolutions.com/2013/09/konami-unveil-all-game-modes-for-pes-2014-new-screenshots-included.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Apparently also that edit mode details will all be revealed later this week.

About f*cking time honestly Konami could really learn a lot from EA when it comes to marketing their game.



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Post by danyjr on Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:47 pm

Any changes from last year apart from inclusion of AFC Champions League?

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:26 pm

Outside of edit mode as i know nothing about it....

League is mode is back.... Europa League has a stand along mode and not just available in Master League.

Also that TeamPlay thing is new, but i don't what the f*ck it is.

So yeah not a great deal new stuff as far as modes go, mainly just changes to ones we already have.

11 days till release and i know little to nothing about most of the modes i'll be playing, its like they don't want to sell the game. Laughing
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Post by danyjr on Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:45 pm

EA haven't been any better to be honest regarding the improvements they make. They've been living on commercials, giving huge fancy names to tiny improvements (First Touch Control Proud) and shit like that the past couple of years without improving their game much. You look at FIFA 14 and it FIFA 12 reskinned, still the same gameplay and shallow Career mode.

PS: I wish Konami could improve the commentary at some point. It is so basic and ancient that it adds zero excitement to the overall gameplay. And it's got shitty commentators on both Spanish and English versions.

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Post by Tomwin Lannister on Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:47 pm

Yeah i'm pissed at FIFA but looks like Pes ain't exactly taking advantage of ea's lack of care.



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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:54 pm

They have made improvements to modes that were already in the game but they are not exactly shouting it from the rooftops like you would expect...

Basically they have stuff but don't talk about it.... the PR is crap tbh.

Anyway... these are the teams for the demo on Wednesday.

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More than i expected tbh.... and there is this which SHOULD in theory make online better tbh assuming the connections are not utterly shit.

Adam Bhatti ‏@Adam_Bhatti 19m
Also, news coming about online.3 pass assistance filters, team filtering based on grading,& new cheat measures Wink #PES2014

Basically what that means is that you filter out your search to play people who play on the same assistance you do.

I think Fifa does already have that but PES is so FARRRR behind in the online space its a good start, i have searched for 5 games on 2013( only played one) and every f*cker is always Madrid and Barca.

Hopefully i can be lower ranked teams without fearing these cheesy wankers.
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Post by Kaladin on Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:58 pm

Europe league standalone mode?

I'm gonna abuse that shit Very Happy

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Post by danyjr on Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:04 pm

Boca in the demo Proud
I'm going to take a day off life when the demo hits my console.

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Post by KantLogic on Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:21 pm

still the crap online mode?  no pro club? no good seasons?

only hypothetically realistic gameplay?

fifa>>> even if i dont intend to buy either

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Post by danyjr on Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:28 pm

Apparently FIFA demo's got Boca too Proud

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:31 pm

@KantLogic wrote:still the crap online mode?  no pro club? no good seasons?

only hypothetically realistic gameplay?

fifa>>> even if i dont intend to buy either
No one knows yet.... they said before there will be an 11 v 11 mode this year and maybe that's what TeamPlay is? as i said nobody knows yet.

Konami in shit PR shocker.
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