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Post by danyjr on Wed Jul 03, 2019 3:23 pm

All in all the quality of this Copa was poor. From the quality of football and refereeing to the terrible pitches and venues.

We were also bad, but understandably so. I had zero hopes in winning Copa and making it to the semifinals against the probable champions is overachieving for this squad and this coach. Strange formations, strange line ups, strange substitutions.

I hope this is Di María's last appearance in the national team. I had heard all about how he had been playing sublime football at Paris but I guess doing well in provincial BPL doesn't mean jack. I would have preferred Lautaro replacing him on the left with Mauro playing more centrally.

Scaloni did well given his shortcomings but he is a second grade assistant coach in the end. Out.

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Post by Robespierre on Wed Jul 03, 2019 5:31 pm

@elitedam you've convinced yourself on Alisson now ? Great also with Brazil .I said you Very Happy

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Post by elitedam on Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:35 pm

The Arthur one was a penalty. That was just dumb as shit. Does anyone have a different angle for the other one? I find it hard to believe that with fifty different cameras that was the best shot we have.

@Robespierre wrote: @elitedam you've convinced yourself on Alisson now ? Great also with Brazil .I said you Very Happy


Laughing I think he's really good, but I just don't buy the "best GK in the world" hype.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:37 pm

just ridiculous he never even checked VAR, it's not like Messi would've scored anyways

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Post by elitedam on Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:07 pm

From a different angle, the Aguero one also looked like it was a clear penalty. Argentina were robbed.
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Post by FalcaoPunch on Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:24 am

Easily the best game of the tournament
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Post by FalcaoPunch on Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:33 am

Peru on to the final! That keep of yours was on god mode tonight lol

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Post by Perucho21 on Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:33 am

Crying

40 years. Long years.

Idc if we get blown out by Brazil. Stopping Chile made us all happy. For the majority of this decade we've been in their shadow. No longer.

Tears pouring down. What a game we played out there.

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Post by Doc on Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:19 am

Peru probably played their finest game since the 70s. Where did that came out from? Passing was smooth as eggs, the finishing was sublime, the saves Gallese was making, seriously, where the fk did this come out from?

Congrats Perucho, your suffering has officially ended. Saw your nation in the WC and now, beat your rival on the way to a Copa America final. Meanwhile, Argentina crying over VAR, beautiful.

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Post by elitedam on Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:49 pm

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:just ridiculous he never even checked VAR, it's not like Messi would've scored anyways


Did you think the Aguero one was a penalty? From one angle (the camera behind Argentina's goal) it looked like a penalty but another angle looked like Aguero stepped on Dani's foot. What do you think?
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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:24 am

I think at least 1 was a pen. Either way the ref should've checked

And today we get another reffing scandal as Messi is shown a red card for absolutely no reason. What a joke of a tournament. Imagine going to this game to enjoy watching Messi live for the only time ever for this to happen.

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Post by FalcaoPunch on Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:54 am

The fact the ref never checked the VAR is what most bothered me tbh

It's actually crazy to think that after the otamendi v arthur or the aguero incident didn't go to VAR review
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Post by guest_07 on Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:30 pm

If Peru win the final,

would the world be happy with it?

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:03 pm

@FalcaoPunch wrote:The fact the ref never checked the VAR is what most bothered me tbh

It's actually crazy to think that after the otamendi v arthur or the aguero incident didn't go to VAR review


Yeah exactly. VAR should work as a challenge system, similar to tennis. Each coach gets 3 challenges and has to use them strategically, each correct challenge doesn't detract from the challenge count. That way we minimize time spent VARing and shit like this doesn't happen

@guest_07 wrote:If Peru win the final,

would the world be happy with it?
they are the lesser evil at this point

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Post by elitedam on Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:41 pm

Doesn't VAR review everything? Where are you guys getting that VAR didn't check those two plays?

Also, the challenge system is awful. Why should it be up to the players/team to try to fix refereeing mistakes?

From what I've seen, VAR has worked well in the WC and the Champions league while being terrible in the CA and the Brasileirao. It does have room for improvement but maybe the main problem is the incompetent fucks who are using it.
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Post by Robespierre on Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:18 pm

I agree. VAR is correct as it is , if it doesn't work it 's just because of ref's incompetence.
I'd not do challenge as in tennis because football is not tennis, simply. It' s unfair to compare two different sports, they 've different situations.
It's worked in Champions League.
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Post by elitedam on Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:54 pm

Complete horseshit penalty. Laughing Laughing Laughing

But greatest DM in the world Firmino though! :bow:

Also, what has gotten into Gabriel Jesus? Does he read GL?
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Post by Doc on Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:05 pm

I think he did, man out here playing great. Dribbling past anyone that dares challenge him. What is this player ffs.

Also, the PK was bullshit but you gotta blame the new rule changes:

New rules or whatever wrote:A free kick or penalty will be awarded if:
- the ball touches a player's hand/arm which has made their body unnaturally bigger

I could only imagine the ref believed that when Silva went down to tackle, his hand didn't need to be there. Sure of it.

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Post by Doc on Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:24 pm

When I think Coutinho is unfairly targeted by Barcelona fans (he is), his decision making for Brasil constantly reminds me why he is still yet to solidify his position there.

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Post by elitedam on Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:36 pm

What the fuck is this???
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Post by Doc on Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:42 pm

Gabi really didn't need to get a 2nd yellow for that but I could see why he got it tbh.

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Post by Myesyats on Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:50 pm

@Doc wrote:When I think Coutinho is unfairly targeted by Barcelona fans (he is), his decision making for Brasil constantly reminds me why he is still yet to solidify his position there.

He has more freedom there and Brazil NT seem to be more organized than Barca these days which is bonkers since they rarely train with each other. However, his deficiencies are still very much on display.

It's incredible how incompetent the refereeing is even with VAR in place. What the fuck South America???

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Post by FalcaoPunch on Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:54 pm

No way a shoulder to shoulder should have been a penalty
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Post by Doc on Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:55 pm

I mean, all this Tete is dumb has to be put to bed now?! His changes after going to ten men has been absolutely immense.

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Post by Doc on Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:55 pm

@FalcaoPunch wrote:No way a shoulder to shoulder should have been a penalty

No way Gabriel Jesus should have gotten a 2nd yellow for that but this ref really was determined to make this a thing.

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Post by FalcaoPunch on Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:57 pm

@Doc wrote:
@FalcaoPunch wrote:No way a shoulder to shoulder should have been a penalty

No way Gabriel Jesus should have gotten a 2nd yellow for that but this ref really was determined to make this a thing.


Also no way Advincula should have gone that long without a yellow

Got extremely lucky to not have been sent off
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