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Post by The Franchise on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:22 pm

@Le Samourai wrote:
@The Franchise wrote:So, if you cut past everything. What your saying is.

It shouldnt be a pen because sometimes it happens in other games and the ref doesnt give it?

scratch

Nope I'm saying it happens multiple times in EVERY other game.

The rule that is........

What we saw here, does not happen in every other game.

In fact, to that degree, it rarely happens, and when it does, it almost never goes without punishment.


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Post by vanDEEZ on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:26 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:so to sum it up, the ref was asenine, shock
> didnt award pens to villarreal
> didnt award some obvious faults on madrid players
> the red card on ramos is justified
> the red card on Ozil is justified
> red card on the moronic staff is justified
> and if the allegations are correct, the incoming suspension for Pepe is justified

what else?

yes. i would even venture to say all the calls went madrids way. thouse lucky bastards getting away with a tie.

villarreal should have been up 5-0
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Post by TheRedStag on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:27 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:so to sum it up, the ref was asenine, shock
> didnt award pens to villarreal
> didnt award some obvious faults on madrid players
> the red card on ramos is justified
> the red card on Ozil is justified
> red card on the moronic staff is justified
> and if the allegations are correct, the incoming suspension for Pepe is justified

what else?

>Ozil made a nice assist for the Madrid goal
> Casillas was asleep for Villarreal goal

together that pretty much sums the game up.

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Post by Swanhends on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:28 pm

@The Franchise wrote:
@Le Samourai wrote:
@The Franchise wrote:So, if you cut past everything. What your saying is.

It shouldnt be a pen because sometimes it happens in other games and the ref doesnt give it?

scratch

Nope I'm saying it happens multiple times in EVERY other game.

The rule that is........

What we saw here, does not happen in every other game.

In fact, to that degree, it rarely happens, and when it does, it almost never goes without punishment.


I have to disagree with this...Literally every game I watch I see defenders holding/grabbing or sometimes downright tackling opposing players on corners...The only time I can recall seeing a penalty called for any of those things was Pazzini getting body slammed last weekend in the Atalanta game (Milito missed the PK Laughing)

Defenders get away with FARRRR too much on cornerkicks

The grab on Villareal player shouldve been a PK if you go by the book...but when it doesn't get called the first 99 times, I can definitely see why people contend it shouldn't be called the 100th

Its a shitty situation...You don't want to ruin games by calling PKs for grabbing on corner kicks - but at the same time thats the only way you're going to be able to stop that kind of thing from happening - referees need to start calling more PKs for fouls on corners

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:29 pm

Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:
@Mr Nick09 wrote:so to sum it up, the ref was asenine, shock
> didnt award pens to villarreal
> didnt award some obvious faults on madrid players
> the red card on ramos is justified
> the red card on Ozil is justified
> red card on the moronic staff is justified
> and if the allegations are correct, the incoming suspension for Pepe is justified

what else?

>Ozil made a nice assist for the Madrid goal
> Casillas was asleep for Villarreal goal

together that pretty much sums the game up.
Oh are we talking about footy now? yes and yes on your points.

another one
> Mourinho's 433 is the worst tactic i have ever seen

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Post by vanDEEZ on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:30 pm

lets bring up every foul that real madrid EVER got away with because its completely relevant to this particular thread. :facepalm:

i really do wonder what the world looks like through those delusional lenses of yours. you live to hate RM its obvious we get it.
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Post by EarlyPrototype on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:31 pm

As soon as I saw 433 I knew we were *bleep*.

None of us would be butthurt if Casillias never screwed up. Mad
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Post by the xcx on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:31 pm

BhritanniaBhlue wrote:
@The Franchise wrote:
@Le Samourai wrote:
@The Franchise wrote:So, if you cut past everything. What your saying is.

It shouldnt be a pen because sometimes it happens in other games and the ref doesnt give it?

scratch

Nope I'm saying it happens multiple times in EVERY other game.

The rule that is........

What we saw here, does not happen in every other game.

In fact, to that degree, it rarely happens, and when it does, it almost never goes without punishment.


I have to disagree with this...Literally every game I watch I see defenders holding/grabbing or sometimes downright tackling opposing players on corners...The only time I can recall seeing a penalty called for any of those things was Pazzini getting body slammed last weekend in the Atalanta game (Milito missed the PK Laughing)

Defenders get away with FARRRR too much on cornerkicks

The grab on Villareal player shouldve been a PK if you go by the book...but when it doesn't get called the first 99 times, I can definitely see why people contend it shouldn't be called the 100th

Its a shitty situation...You don't want to ruin games by calling PKs for grabbing on corner kicks - but at the same time thats the only way you're going to be able to stop that kind of thing from happening - referees need to start calling more PKs for fouls on corners
:bow: worthy response, could have not said it any better.
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Post by TheRedStag on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:32 pm

players holding/grabbing each other =/= players holding/grabbing another players jersey.

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Post by Le Samourai on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:33 pm

@The Franchise wrote:
@Le Samourai wrote:
@The Franchise wrote:So, if you cut past everything. What your saying is.

It shouldnt be a pen because sometimes it happens in other games and the ref doesnt give it?

scratch

Nope I'm saying it happens multiple times in EVERY other game.

The rule that is........

What we saw here, does not happen in every other game.

In fact, to that degree, it rarely happens, and when it does, it almost never goes without punishment.


I mean...that's tough...look at this for example.

He hold's on to Ronaldo's shirt....so I'll assume it's a foul......but the thing is....in my mind it isn't a foul.

If it is....then I've been thinking about this wrong the whole time.When Samuel was doing this every matchday in the CL a couple years ago, hardly anyone claimed those were penalties... so I don't get it particularly.

Personally I've never really seen one given.

But if it isn't a foul outside the box in Spain of all places...I dunno...it certainly doesn't seem like anything stonewall to me.






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Post by Lord Hades on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:33 pm

how about we just calm down , its still 6 points.. every team encounters a blip in the season . maybe this is ours.. lets just not call for every player to be dropped and trust these guys

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Post by Swanhends on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:34 pm

Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:players holding/grabbing each other =/= players holding/grabbing another players jersey.

...what the hell is the difference? Same thing.

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Post by Le Samourai on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:35 pm

BhritanniaBhlue wrote:
Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:players holding/grabbing each other =/= players holding/grabbing another players jersey.

...what the hell is the difference? Same thing.

Exactly...it's not like one limits the opposing players mobility more than the other.

Like most times in life....I blame Gentile.

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Post by Doc on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:37 pm

Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:players holding/grabbing each other =/= players holding/grabbing another players jersey.

Because holding back a player physically isn't as bad as holding his jersey. Seriously, I actually giggled at this comment. Both are doing the same thing: holding back the player.

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Post by The Franchise on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:38 pm

BhritanniaBhlue wrote:
@The Franchise wrote:
@Le Samourai wrote:
@The Franchise wrote:So, if you cut past everything. What your saying is.

It shouldnt be a pen because sometimes it happens in other games and the ref doesnt give it?

scratch

Nope I'm saying it happens multiple times in EVERY other game.

The rule that is........

What we saw here, does not happen in every other game.

In fact, to that degree, it rarely happens, and when it does, it almost never goes without punishment.


I have to disagree with this...Literally every game I watch I see defenders holding/grabbing or sometimes downright tackling opposing players on corners...The only time I can recall seeing a penalty called for any of those things was Pazzini getting body slammed last weekend in the Atalanta game (Milito missed the PK Laughing)

Defenders get away with FARRRR too much on cornerkicks

The grab on Villareal player shouldve been a PK if you go by the book...but when it doesn't get called the first 99 times, I can definitely see why people contend it shouldn't be called the 100th

Its a shitty situation...You don't want to ruin games by calling PKs for grabbing on corner kicks - but at the same time thats the only way you're going to be able to stop that kind of thing from happening - referees need to start calling more PKs for fouls on corners

I think a key word is, to what "extent".

Players get away with holding all the time, but rarely to this extent and most importantly, not in every game.

I see players holding each other, sometimes one more than another away from the ball with crosses coming in.

I dont often see a player holding so blatantly in such a fashion. And again, not in every game.
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Post by harhar11 on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:38 pm

@free_cat wrote:Juas, Se7en, taht's very biased. Ramos only got a yellow (second yellow) for that tackle. Not even accurate.

They could have compared those actions with some other stuff:

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And I could go on, and on, and on, and on...

Unfortunately, with those kind of comparisons, Madrid always comes as a loser.
@free_cat wrote:Juas, Se7en, taht's very biased. Ramos only got a yellow (second yellow) for that tackle. Not even accurate.

They could have compared those actions with some other stuff:

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And I could go on, and on, and on, and on...

Unfortunately, with those kind of comparisons, Madrid always comes as a loser.

Here's another one
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Post by TheRedStag on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:40 pm

BhritanniaBhlue wrote:
Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:players holding/grabbing each other =/= players holding/grabbing another players jersey.

...what the hell is the difference? Same thing.

No its not.

If one player has arms around another trying to mark them or grabs and holds an arm of an opponent etc. it largely goes unpunished but sometimes does get punished. In general, there is inconsistency in the rules.

But a clear blatant jersey pull as was the case in both instances are nearly always punished. In general there is no inconsistency in the rule.

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Post by The Franchise on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:40 pm

Please no more still pictures of fouls/aggressions. They dont really help.

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Post by free_cat on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:42 pm

@vanDEEZ wrote:lets bring up every foul that real madrid EVER got away with because its completely relevant to this particular thread. :facepalm:

i really do wonder what the world looks like through those delusional lenses of yours. you live to hate RM its obvious we get it.


It wasn't me who started comparing yesterday foul's to fouls of other games or other years. It was your co-madrid-fan Se7en, comparing Callejon's received stamp with Messi's received stamp from Ujfalussi.

And yes, I hate Madrid, never denied that. I love the smell of napalm in the morning when Madrid is starting to burn.

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Post by Le Samourai on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:43 pm

Callejon's stamp was really bad....when reviewed whoever did it should be suspended.

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Post by StevieRayVaughan on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:43 pm

Everything that is wrong with this forum can be seen in this and the other thread about this same thing.

Real fans blaming the loss on the refs
Barca fans claiming they deserve it because they r dirty (posting pictures of previous matches), also trying to justify the ref's decisions (Villareal's penalty, therefore Ref wasnt biased etc)

Both you fans are crybabies. When any one of your team loses, you quickly blame the ref and claim that the other team is manipulating the ref somehow. Its so freaking annoying.

Bad decisions happens every game. I do agree Madrid were a little harddone by the decisions, but why are Barca fans trying to post past pictures etc?

Everyone should admit the ref was shit and move on. Yes, it is that easy.



Note: Some of the Madrid/neutral fans in this thread have stayed extremely classy, but the majority of them are delusional. Can the mods move this to the José Luis Paradas Romero thread?




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Post by LeVersacci on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:46 pm

@StevieRayVaughan wrote:Everything that is wrong with this forum can be seen in this and the other thread about this same thing.

Real fans blaming the loss on the refs
Barca fans claiming they deserve it because they r dirty (posting pictures of previous matches), also trying to justify the ref's decisions (Villareal's penalty, therefore Ref wasnt biased etc)

Both you fans are crybabies. When any one of your team loses, you quickly blame the ref and claim that the other team is manipulating the ref somehow. Its so freaking annoying.

Bad decisions happens every game. I do agree Madrid were a little harddone by the decisions, but why are Barca fans trying to post past pictures etc?

Everyone should admit the ref was shit and move on. Yes, it is that easy.



Note: Some of the Madrid/neutral fans in this thread have stayed extremely classy, but the majority of them are delusional. Can the mods move this to the José Luis Paradas Romero thread?



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Post by Senor Penguin on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:48 pm

@StevieRayVaughan wrote:Everything that is wrong with this forum can be seen in this and the other thread about this same thing.

Real fans blaming the loss on the refs
Barca fans claiming they deserve it because they r dirty (posting pictures of previous matches), also trying to justify the ref's decisions (Villareal's penalty, therefore Ref wasnt biased etc)

Both you fans are crybabies. When any one of your team loses, you quickly blame the ref and claim that the other team is manipulating the ref somehow. Its so freaking annoying.

Bad decisions happens every game. I do agree Madrid were a little harddone by the decisions, but why are Barca fans trying to post past pictures etc?

Everyone should admit the ref was shit and move on. Yes, it is that easy.



Note: Some of the Madrid/neutral fans in this thread have stayed extremely classy, but the majority of them are delusional. Can the mods move this to the José Luis Paradas Romero thread?
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Post by vanDEEZ on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:48 pm

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Post by free_cat on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:49 pm

@Le Samourai wrote:
If it is....then I've been thinking about this wrong the whole time.

it certainly doesn't seem like anything stonewall to me.

It doesn't matter what you think or it "seems" to you.

What matters are the rules of football. And the rules are clear: it's a penalty.

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Post by guest7 on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:49 pm

@StevieRayVaughan wrote:Everything that is wrong with this forum can be seen in this and the other thread about this same thing.

Real fans blaming the loss on the refs
Barca fans claiming they deserve it because they r dirty (posting pictures of previous matches), also trying to justify the ref's decisions (Villareal's penalty, therefore Ref wasnt biased etc)

Both you fans are crybabies. When any one of your team loses, you quickly blame the ref and claim that the other team is manipulating the ref somehow. Its so freaking annoying.

Bad decisions happens every game. I do agree Madrid were a little harddone by the decisions, but why are Barca fans trying to post past pictures etc?

Everyone should admit the ref was shit and move on. Yes, it is that easy.



Note: Some of the Madrid/neutral fans in this thread have stayed extremely classy, but the majority of them are delusional. Can the mods move this to the José Luis Paradas Romero thread?




Even though I contributed to the crying, I agree. It does get annoying.

I'm gonna stop crying, obviously that loss made me really frustrated, I was ready to smash my TV into pieces when I saw the referee handing cards to everyone for applauding lmao

But it's true, the crying from both sides is extremly annoying.
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