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Post by Guest on Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:52 am

Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:
@dronte wrote:
@kiranr wrote:
@dronte wrote:
@kiranr wrote:What are the Madrid players crying about so much? I though Villareal were the ones who got two penalty calls disallowed.
Staying on the pitch with 2 yellow cards is totally normal, yeah Very Happy

Where did i say anything about it being normal?
I'm just saying that questionable penalty calls happen every day, those are mostly subjective decisions, but 2 yellows and not a red, that's just pure stupidity so I guess they have the right to take a note on the ref (of course their outrage is a little bit of exaggeration Very Happy)

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Saying that Senna's yellow card is Ruben's yellow card is normal too, yeah Very Happy
What I saw is that Ruben got 2 yellows, but if you say so

The yellow card on 19 mins was for Senna. TV got it wrong and said it was for Ruben. Ref said after the game that the caution was given to Marcos Senna for “making comments about my decisions.”

Ruben got booked in the second half.


That's why the official LigaBBVA website said it was Rubens yellow card and the website suddenly crashed with all the drama at the end of the game, and that's also why the official LigaBBVA app also showed it was Rubens yellow card.

The ref even pointed at Ruben when he got the card ffs.


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Post by guest7 on Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:54 am

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And yes, Callejon got injured from that horror stamp.

And yes, Pepe started bleeding after that slap. And yes, he got a yellow for diving after that. (even though he was bleeding)
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Post by free_cat on Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:55 am

Ok, sorry mate, I misinterpreted you.

However, your point is not valid either, because it also happens now and then that a referee (or the TV) mixes the yellow cards to different players or the opposite. It doesn't make it a worse decision that not seeing a clear cut penalty.

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Post by TheRedStag on Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:56 am

@Crimson wrote:
Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:
@dronte wrote:
@kiranr wrote:
@dronte wrote:
@kiranr wrote:What are the Madrid players crying about so much? I though Villareal were the ones who got two penalty calls disallowed.
Staying on the pitch with 2 yellow cards is totally normal, yeah Very Happy

Where did i say anything about it being normal?
I'm just saying that questionable penalty calls happen every day, those are mostly subjective decisions, but 2 yellows and not a red, that's just pure stupidity so I guess they have the right to take a note on the ref (of course their outrage is a little bit of exaggeration Very Happy)

Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:
Saying that Senna's yellow card is Ruben's yellow card is normal too, yeah Very Happy
What I saw is that Ruben got 2 yellows, but if you say so

The yellow card on 19 mins was for Senna. TV got it wrong and said it was for Ruben. Ref said after the game that the caution was given to Marcos Senna for “making comments about my decisions.”

Ruben got booked in the second half.


That's why the official LigaBBVA website said it was Rubens yellow card and the website suddenly crashed with all the drama at the end of the game, and that's also why the official LigaBBVA app also showed it was Rubens yellow card.

The ref even pointed at Ruben when he got the card ffs.


website was obviously wrong. the ref is in charge of the game he said it was for Senna. No one could know better than he.

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Post by dronte on Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:56 am

@free_cat wrote:Ok, sorry mate, I misinterpreted you.

However, your point is not valid either, because it also happens now and then that a referee (or the TV) mixes the yellow cards to different players or the opposite. It doesn't make it a worse decision that not seeing a clear cut penalty.
No problem
I myself thought it was pretty obvious at the matchtime but after rewatching it on youtube I'm not quite sure any more. Very Happy

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:58 am

@Doc wrote:He never said those aforementioned calls were questionable, he just made a general statement Feline. Everyone who watched that match know the ref missed 2 glaring penalties.

And Nick's thoughts mirror my own. I'm tired of the fighting and the accusations. Honestly tired of it all.

Dude, we lost 4 points in 3 days and no one is questioning the leadership and the state of our play. Refs are asenine in la liga, they have been for both barca and real. can we just move on and point the fingers at the players and staffs acting like morons. Why is Pepe insulting the ref when Ramos has a red already? he will get suspended and our CB pair is now decimated. what the *bleep* is wrong with them?

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Post by che on Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:58 am

@Crimson wrote:

That's why the official LigaBBVA website said it was Rubens yellow card and the website suddenly crashed with all the drama at the end of the game, and that's also why the official LigaBBVA app also showed it was Rubens yellow card.

i'm gonna hazard a guess that people who update the website and app get their info from tv...

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Post by free_cat on Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:59 am

Juas, Se7en, taht's very biased. Ramos only got a yellow (second yellow) for that tackle. Not even accurate.

They could have compared those actions with some other stuff:

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And I could go on, and on, and on, and on...

Unfortunately, with those kind of comparisons, Madrid always comes as a loser.

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Post by guest7 on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:02 am

I never said anything about Ramos red, it was fair. Özil's wasn't though (got a red for sarcasticly applauding, but ofc it only counts towards a Madrid player)

How is the Callejon tackle not a card?

How the hell is Pepe getting slapped and starting to bleed a dive? The referee was a joke against us, always ready to pull the card out. He probably hands reds to his kids whenever they applaud him, it's such a crime
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Post by Le Samourai on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:03 am

@free_cat wrote:
a) Grab an adversary.


Well, I'll go ahead and say this is the least enforced rule of all time.Grab and opponent? ROFL.

I don't think I've seen a single corner where someone in the box hasn't been grabbed.........

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Post by free_cat on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:05 am

Se7en wrote:I never said anything about Ramos red, it was fair. Özil's wasn't though (got a red for sarcasticly applauding, but ofc it only counts towards a Madrid player)

How is the Callejon tackle not a card?

How the hell is Pepe getting slapped and starting to bleed a dive? The referee was a joke against us, always ready to pull the card out. He probably hands reds to his kids whenever they applaud him, it's such a crime

The image you posted says that Ramos got a red for that tackle. He didn't, he got a second yellow. Hence, it is a biased image. Callejon tackle was a yellow card, I agree. Pepe's is just a clash between two of them.

All I'm saying is that if you start making those kind of comparisons Real Madrid will always come as a loser as there is no team in la Liga with more fouls and agressions that have not been called in the recent years.

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Post by the xcx on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:05 am

[quote="Le Samourai"]
@free_cat wrote:
@dronte wrote:

a) Grab an adversary.


Well, I'll go ahead and say this is the least enforced rule of all time.Grab and opponent? ROFL.


I don't think I've seen a single corner where someone in the box hasn't been grabbed.........
atleast someone gets, but the rest just keeps babbling about Villarreals 2 uncalled penalties Laughing..Just proves my point, fans without no football experience.


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Post by che on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:05 am

@Le Samourai wrote:

Well, I'll go ahead and say this is the least enforced rule of all time.Grab and opponent? ROFL.

I don't think I've seen a single corner where someone in the box hasn't been grabbed.........

there's grabbing and there's this... ffs this kind of shirt pull is a stone cold yellow card when it happens in the middle of the damn pitch, let alone in the penalty area

can't believe i'm even arguing this...

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Post by free_cat on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:06 am

@Le Samourai wrote:
@free_cat wrote:
a) Grab an adversary.


Well, I'll go ahead and say this is the least enforced rule of all time.Grab and opponent? ROFL.

I don't think I've seen a single corner where someone in the box hasn't been grabbed.........

It's true, referees don't enforce the rule enough. But there are levels, and when the player was in a position to score and he is grabbed, it should be enforced. Both Marcos Ruben and Nilmar (especially Nilmar) were in a position to score.


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Post by Le Samourai on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:07 am

Never thought I'd see the day when a ref from any sport outdoes ol Joey Crawford....but records are meant to be broken lol

Ozil and Faria reminds me of this.



Spoiler:

Except I laughed my ass off when this one happened Sad


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Post by free_cat on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:08 am

No one knows what Ozil told the referee. We will know when they issue his sanction. Until then, it's ridiculous to say he was sent off for applauding sarcastically, that's only a yellow.

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Post by Doc on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:10 am

@Mr Nick09 wrote:
Dude, we lost 4 points in 3 days and no one is questioning the leadership and the state of our play. Refs are asenine in la liga, they have been for both barca and real. can we just move on and point the fingers at the players and staffs acting like morons. Why is Pepe insulting the ref when Ramos has a red already? he will get suspended and our CB pair is now decimated. what the *bleep* is wrong with them?

You would think someone at Real Madrid would say what is the real issue. We have been playing shit and got punished for not putting the game away. But let's criticise the refs and "attack" them. That surely gets far...

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Post by Le Samourai on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:11 am

@che wrote:
@Le Samourai wrote:

Well, I'll go ahead and say this is the least enforced rule of all time.Grab and opponent? ROFL.

I don't think I've seen a single corner where someone in the box hasn't been grabbed.........

there's grabbing and there's this... ffs this kind of shirt pull is a stone cold yellow card when it happens in the middle of the damn pitch, let alone in the penalty area

can't believe i'm even arguing this...

Points to Rule posted earlier.

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Post by TheRedStag on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:12 am

@Le Samourai wrote:
@free_cat wrote:
a) Grab an adversary.


Well, I'll go ahead and say this is the least enforced rule of all time.Grab and opponent? ROFL.

I don't think I've seen a single corner where someone in the box hasn't been grabbed.........

You are right here in terms of players holding/wrestling/grabbing each other on set pieces. The annoying thing in football about this is the lack of consistently. Sometimes refs do give penalties for this but the large majority of times it goes unpunished. Inconsistency=extremely annoying.

However the 2 penalty decisions in this game have nothing to do with this as it was a clear jersey pull and not a small one at that. In general there is no real inconsistencies with jersey pulls. They always get punished no matter where the foul occurs. In this game Madrid got away with it twice. Both times in the box.

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Post by The Franchise on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:15 am

So, if you cut past everything. What your saying is.

It shouldnt be a pen because sometimes it happens in other games and the ref doesnt give it?

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Post by Swanhends on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:15 am

poor mans



Mou teaches his players the sarcastic slow clap hmm

All part of the master plan? hmm

Except that Inter beat Milan 2-0 while Madrid drew with Villareal hmm


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Post by Le Samourai on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:18 am

@The Franchise wrote:So, if you cut past everything. What your saying is.

It shouldnt be a pen because sometimes it happens in other games and the ref doesnt give it?

scratch

Nope I'm saying it happens multiple times in EVERY other game.

The rule that is........I mean...if it's the rule that's supposed to be by refs...why not enforce it scratch. You see I'm guessing the theory behind the rule is being grabbed hinders your mobility..so why exactly would you not enforce the others.

I'm guessing it all has something to do with the iconic status of Gentile's iconic shirt grab on Zico...but it's not like grabbing your shirt hinders your mobility more than say grabbing an arm or placing your hand across someones chest...

I wouldn't mind if this was enforced more actually,Penaldo fans certainly wouldn't.


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Post by vanDEEZ on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:18 am

@free_cat wrote:Juas, Se7en, taht's very biased. Ramos only got a yellow (second yellow) for that tackle. Not even accurate.

They could have compared those actions with some other stuff:

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And I could go on, and on, and on, and on...

Unfortunately, with those kind of comparisons, Madrid always comes as a loser.


im so glad this is a barca v madrid discussion now. thank god because we havent talked about this match enough.
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:21 am

so to sum it up, the ref was asenine, shock
> didnt award pens to villarreal
> didnt award some obvious faults on madrid players
> the red card on ramos is justified
> the red card on Ozil is justified
> red card on the moronic staff is justified
> and if the allegations are correct, the incoming suspension for Pepe is justified

what else?

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Post by free_cat on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:22 am

@vanDEEZ wrote:
im so glad this is a barca v madrid discussion now. thank god because we havent talked about this match enough.

It wasn't my intention to do it a Barça vs. Madrid, don't worry, there's enough of those action that were not vs. us.

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And we could go on, and on...

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Post by The Franchise on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:22 am

@Le Samourai wrote:
@The Franchise wrote:So, if you cut past everything. What your saying is.

It shouldnt be a pen because sometimes it happens in other games and the ref doesnt give it?

scratch

Nope I'm saying it happens multiple times in EVERY other game.

The rule that is........

What we saw here, does not happen in every other game.

In fact, to that degree, it rarely happens, and when it does, it almost never goes without punishment.

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