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Post by Onyx on Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:58 pm

Personally I think Granero, Alonso, Khedira and Kaka are too slow. It's becoming more noticeable.

I know Banega's injured, but we need a quick and agile CM like him.

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Post by The Madrid One on Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:15 pm

We also need a new starting eleven.
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Post by guest7 on Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:18 pm

Or we can stop acting like real life is anything close to FM12
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Post by Onyx on Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:21 pm

I don't think Mourinho's acting like it's FM.
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Post by Onyx on Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:22 pm

@The Madrid One wrote:We also need a new starting eleven.
I think our current starting 11 is alright, it's just we need to improve in certain areas.
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Post by vanDEEZ on Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:25 pm

i mean.. what agile CM is there that is an improvement to xabi or khedira?
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Post by FalcaoPunch on Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:29 pm

New starting eleven? Gtfo and stay out.
Be reasonable it was a close game if you can't be mentally prepared to witness games like this, you shouldn't be here.

@MT very good point. Alonso's speed is becoming more apparent. I just hope for the day Sahin emerges.
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Post by Onyx on Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:34 pm

@vanDEEZ wrote:i mean.. what agile CM is there that is an improvement to xabi or khedira?

I don't think many will admit there's better than Alonso, but personally I prefer someone like Modric. He's good B2B, good vision, good technically, good dribbling, good shot, good agility etc.

He can fit into our 4-2-3-1 or into a 4-3-3.
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Post by vanDEEZ on Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:35 pm

i think tmo was being sarcastic.. just a guess though.
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Post by Valkyrja on Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:37 pm

Sahin is a must in the near future. Xabi is 30 so he can play 2 more years, but in rotation, not like now.

Sahin-Lass-Ozil may be the best midfield in the world.

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Post by hrealmadrid on Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:38 pm

Now THIS is a knee jerk thread.
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Post by Guest on Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:38 pm

I would not be taking anything away from this game, seriously.......


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Post by The Madrid One on Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:39 pm

@vanDEEZ wrote:i think tmo was being sarcastic.. just a guess though.
I was indeed Very Happy
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Post by vanDEEZ on Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:51 pm

well the lack of agility in the midfield has been a problem for a while and has shown particularly against barca.

but this is one of those problems that we cant do anything about because we typically line up 4-2-3-1 and rarely do the front 4 help with midfield duties so in games where we are exposed we have 2 midfielders, typically xabi and khedira doing the work of the entire midfield.

signing someone like modric would increase agility and creativity but we would lose A LOT of physicality that we need.

signing someone like schweinsteiger or even cesc would have been ideal to partner xabi but impossible.

i still have faith in sahin. and signing someone like martinez to replace lass will be hopeful.
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Post by Onyx on Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:22 pm

Physicality doesn't really matter that much imo. Spurs play with Parker as the DM with Modric.

1 DM is alright.
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Post by vanDEEZ on Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:47 pm

but xabi isnt really a DM. it shows that we DO need physicality when xabi is paired with granero or gago in the past.
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Post by Onyx on Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:25 pm

Ah, I thought you meant if Alonso wasn't playing.

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Post by vanDEEZ on Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:27 pm

well then who do you suggest as DM?
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Post by Onyx on Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:37 pm

Khedira/Lass or someone like M'Vila/Javi Martinez.
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Post by Pedram on Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:47 pm

M'Vila has been meh this season. Javi Martinez won't come to Madrid.

The best option was Vidal which we missed.
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Post by Onyx on Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:09 pm

Get Javi Garcia back from Benfica?

Fernando from Porto?
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Post by SuperMAG on Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:16 pm

Mt, you are catching up to, look at these questions:

We need agile midfelder?
We need technically good midfeilders that can control the ball under pressure?
We need strong, fast, aggresive mdfeilder?
We need accurate passing midfeilder?
We need a stopper in midfeid, a BTB stopper who defends and attacks in all action match?
We need a player with good shooting, passing, positioning, defence and attack?
We need a player that can dictate and control the game?

I will give you a hint on who can it be, Frekin its R**O*.

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Post by Onyx on Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:36 pm

We need Ramos at CB imo.
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Post by Error on Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:20 am

@SuperMAG wrote:Mt, you are catching up to, look at these questions:

We need agile midfelder?
We need technically good midfeilders that can control the ball under pressure?
We need strong, fast, aggresive mdfeilder?
We need accurate passing midfeilder?
We need a stopper in midfeid, a BTB stopper who defends and attacks in all action match?
We need a player with good shooting, passing, positioning, defence and attack?
We need a player that can dictate and control the game?

I will give you a hint on who can it be, Frekin its R**O*.
Sorry, but some of those things doesn't really fit into Ramos profile, you pretty much described Schweinsteiger. Ramos is also lacking two of the most important skills for midfielder, intelligence and calmness!
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Post by SuperMAG on Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:38 am

Lol, Ramos can be calm and intelligent too, i perfect world, i would have paired Ramos with Schweinsteger. One is a DLP and other is BTB. Ramos is a almost a stopper in central defence, close to the DM like, i am pretty sure he will bet 5x better DM then all our Midfeilders, a DM that would win us TOP matches.

Ramos is too hectic as a CB for my liking, sometimes he does pull an incridible performance mostly because of his incridible physical and technical skills but his concentration and sometimes "advanced" positioning are not that great but still an incridible CB.

The thing is i beleave that he will be really ATL WC in DM/CM. But i wont mind him as CB cuz he is also WC there.

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