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Post by Guest on Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:48 pm

Currently reading "Proust was a Neuroscientist" and absolutely loving it!

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Post by Blue on Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:11 am

If you like dystopian novels. Give We by Yevgeny Zamyatin a try. Many of the most famous novels were heavily inspired by it, most notably 1984.

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Post by Firenze on Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:08 pm

no spoilers

started reading the prince of nothing/second apocalypse series by Bakker, 20% into the second book atm

heard it's an incredibly dark and bleak series and thus not all that well liked, first book didn't really reflect what I'd heard and someone I know said he dropped it during the second book because of how dark it was so hoping to see it live up to the hype

very well written though, probably the most Malazan like thing I've read (since MBOTF) in that aspect. Can't say I'm invested into any POV character yet though, but they're all different enough to make for an interesting read.
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Post by Kaladin on Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:03 pm

If you like the soldiering in Malazan, then read the Powder Mage trilogy

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:20 am

Also heard good things about the Black Company when it comes to soldiering, but I haven't read it yet

Powder Mage (and the subsequent trilogy, in progress) are great though. Napoleonic time setting where 'mages' snort powder in order to become incredible sharp shooters. Plot falls through too.

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Post by Kaladin on Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:32 am

The first few Black Company books are some of the best stuff in that specific niche. But the latter books lose out in quality.

I actually have started the trilogy sequel (Empire of Sin) though i read a few of the novellas and liked the world building

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Post by Firenze on Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:49 pm

New First Law book is out in September. 'A Little Hatred' Haven't been this hyped for a book ever. Direct continuation of the series, 20 years after Red Country, I think. All 3 books in the new series are already complete and will release yearly.

if nothing else, the author must have done some serious research into the Industrial and French revolutions to so evocatively and effectively depict this kind of terror, these sorts of turbulent times."

'First of all, this is not fantasy as we know it. In fact, this is barely fantasy at all. Undoubtedly epic, with more than a hint of magic, this is a high fantasy world with a low fantasy feel. It's a sign of the times- even the big hitters are pursing influence though finance and banking instead of sorcery…'

'this book is exceptional. Indisputably, spectacularly, criminally good. Clever, funny, and packed with cutting commentary, it’s well worth the wait.'
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Post by El Gunner on Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:47 pm

Absolute legend and a true sorcerer with her words, Toni Morrison, has passed away aged 88.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49254776

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Post by Firenze on Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:00 pm

Prince of Nothing is well written but pretty boring after two books ffs, I'll probably commit to the third but I'd originally heard it was a trilogy, now I'm learning there are like 8 books out currently with the author struggling to get the ninth published.

I like grimdark stuff but there's nothing to like here really. Characters not resonating with me. Also one of the biggest Mr Perfect type/Gary-Stu's I've encountered in a series outside of anime.

May return to The Lies of Locke Lamora after this or just wait until the new First Law in Sept.
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Post by Kaladin on Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:24 pm

Read The Black Company, The Lies of Locke Lamora isn't grimdark.

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Post by Firenze on Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:08 pm

I don't exclusively have to read Grim Dark and the 50 or so pages I read of Lamora were alright.

Black Company never really interested me despite it being a huge source of inspiration for Malazan

friend been recommending these two books to me for a while

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13569581-blood-song

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16131107-the-black-prism
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Post by Kaladin on Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:09 pm

The Black Prism is VERY GOOD, the last book in the series is coming out in October. The Broken Eye (3rd book) arguably one of the best fantasy books i've read.

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Post by Firenze on Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:36 pm

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You gonna get a Little Hatred next month? new First Law

still reading Prince of Nothing, one character gets cucked and 1/3 of the book is just him agonizing over it lmao

so much sexual angst and violence in these books, was tiring 2 books ago ffs
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Post by Firenze on Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:24 pm

Finished the first trilogy in The Prince of Nothing series, decided to end it there. Read spoilers for the rest of the series, dodged a bullet.

Gonna stop my infatuation with Grimdark stuff now, because that's two of the most highly recommended series in the sub-genre that have been among some of the absolute worst reads I've ever had.

Gonna read A Little Hatred from Abercrombie next and then either return to Lamora or try Light Bringer, I think.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:51 pm

Halfway through A Little Hatred and its already my favorite Abercrombie yet. Highly recommend it. Will save specific thoughts for when I'm down with it but I'll say that the characters feel completely alive and when I'm not reading it I find myself anxiously waiting until the next moment I can.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:01 pm

@Kaladin wrote:The Black Prism is VERY GOOD, the last book in the series is coming out in October. The Broken Eye (3rd book) arguably one of the best fantasy books i've read.

I read blood song when it came out and loved it, the sequels were trash. Don't know if I would love it after all the reading I've done since then though, it's one of those books that holds you and you can't let go but I wouldn't call "Great".

If you like it I would recommend The Poppy Wars and A Rage of Dragons as similar adrenaline packed stories that cover familiar tropes in unfamiliar and unique settings. Very fun to read, hard to put down, but at the end of the day you go "I've read/watched 20 different versions of this already"

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Post by Warrior on Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:41 pm

You guys read mostly fantasy ?
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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:45 pm

I read mostly nonfiction and fantasy, yeah

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Post by El Gunner on Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:53 pm

shame when the best literature comes from standard drama and thriller fiction.

I've been recently fascinated with Charles Manson again because of OUATIH and season 2 of Mindhunter. Somebody recommended "The Girls" by Emma Cline to me which is a story loosely based on the Manson family, told from the perspective of one girl. Thinking of getting that next since now i will have more time to read for fun and casual learning, i'm submitting my Honours thesis tomorrow, and then i only have one more essay, and two more exams left Very Happy

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:15 pm

Feel like I get my drama and thriller fix from TV and movies though

Good luck on the exams!

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Post by Firenze on Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:18 pm

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:Halfway through A Little Hatred and its already my favorite Abercrombie yet. Highly recommend it. Will save specific thoughts for when I'm down with it but I'll say that the characters feel completely alive and when I'm not reading it I find myself anxiously waiting until the next moment I can.

I expected to get through it in like a week but honestly? I absolutely hated the POV's we got early on...initially. I'm now like 30% through and enjoying it a lot more, I knew I shouldn't have been down on it initially since I figured there was no way Abercrombie wouldn't deliver and I kept seeing comments saying it's peoples favourite from him.
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Post by Firenze on Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:01 pm

Finally finished A Little Hatred. Not great, not terrible. I liked it a good deal more than The Blade Itself and I'm definitely hyped to see where the character arcs go. Definitely felt like setup mostly. Good assortment of POV's.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:27 pm

Similar thoughts, my hype died down a little in the 2nd half as the novelty of the new POVs and world came off a bit. I liked it more than the original trilogy but less than the stand alone entries. That said I agree it's a very good foundation for the next few books and I'm excited to see where it goes from here.

Some specific thoughts:

Spoiler:

As soon as Clover and Wonderful started making plans for the future I knew one would die. Lo and behold Clover was absolutely merciless.

The Weaver is originally some bald guy, I'm thinking Bayaz? What's his angle here? Also very intrigued by whatever he was dealing with. Or could it be Khalul?

Might be because I read the original trilogy forever ago but I completely forgot that Jezal had an illegitimate child, so the "revelation" that Savine and Orso were related hit me like a wall of bricks.

With every leader dying in the last pages, The Dogman has his days numbered, will be sad to see him go

The revolution angle ended up disappointing me a bit, hoping to see the series go full french revolution and reign of terror in the next few books

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Post by RealGunner on Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:27 pm

Do you guys just find any random epic fantasy series and read them?
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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:49 pm

I consider myself to be pretty selective, considering how much trash or generic stuff is out there, but there's also a lot of volume. I've probably read maybe 4-5 epic fantasies this year, sometimes individual entries in a series I'm already following (like A little hatred) and sometimes entirely new series to me.

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Post by Firenze on Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:50 pm

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:Similar thoughts, my hype died down a little in the 2nd half as the novelty of the new POVs and world came off a bit. I liked it more than the original trilogy but less than the stand alone entries. That said I agree it's a very good foundation for the next few books and I'm excited to see where it goes from here.

Some specific thoughts:

Spoiler:

As soon as Clover and Wonderful started making plans for the future I knew one would die. Lo and behold Clover was absolutely merciless.

The Weaver is originally some bald guy, I'm thinking Bayaz? What's his angle here? Also very intrigued by whatever he was dealing with. Or could it be Khalul?

Might be because I read the original trilogy forever ago but I completely forgot that Jezal had an illegitimate child, so the "revelation" that Savine and Orso were related hit me like a wall of bricks.

With every leader dying in the last pages, The Dogman has his days numbered, will be sad to see him go

The revolution angle ended up disappointing me a bit, hoping to see the series go full french revolution and reign of terror in the next few books

I'm not too concerned that I didn't love a Little Hatred, since Abercrombie literally already finished the three books in this trilogy and the wait will only be another 10 months. I remember being perplexed by the hype for the series after I first read The Blade Itself, so I'm certain this is going to be great too by the time it's over.

Spoiler:
Clover was my favourite POV just because he was an easy character to like, just like Logen. Despite being a piece of shit. Just like Logen. Still, I somehow didn't see it coming. Despite, as I've seen people point out, Clover literally telling you what sort of person he is in every single POV chapter he had. The Heroes is my favourite book from Abercrombie, so I was sad to see Wonderful go. Gotta say, Stour Nightfall was the complete opposite of what I expected going into the book, having read a few excerpts. In a good way though, I think.

RIP Jezal. I remember disliking him immensely back in the OG trilogy, coming to feel sympathetic and even like him as the books went along, like most I imagine. Him being killed at the end, I did see coming though. There's a recurrent feeling of the ol' time being a flat circle
throughout the novel. I reckon it's almost certain Bayaz just saw it as time for change and he just removes the pieces when he feels like it as usual.

Still, sucks to see a character tied to so much of the previous books killed off like that.

Definitely interested in seeing where things go in the future, a United North and Union going to war against Styria seems quite likely IMO and the reason for Bayaz' meddling currently.

Was surprised to hear that Khalul had basically lost all power in the series, I almost expected him to be more important this time around, but you get the feeling that won't be the case. We'll likely get some of him in a future standalone featuring Ferro. Maybe even Logen, after this trilogy is done, I reckon.

Well, it wouldn't be the first time Bayaz has been involved in public uprising. Again with the events repeating themselves, I imagine it'll have been Yoru Sulfur again since he can shapeshift, rather than Bayaz himself. But it could also have been agents of the other Magi, since there were some comments that they've started to clash with Bayaz.

Fav POV's:

Good: Clover, Savine, Orso
Alright: Rikke (she really grew on me as the books went, I hated her POV initially, would be higher if not for that), Vick
Didn't care much for:  Leo, Gunnar Broad


@RealGunner wrote:Do you guys just find any random epic fantasy series and read them?

Nope. I'm pretty picky, spend time looking into a series so much as possible without being spoiled and I also take into accounts recommendations from people I know that have read books. That said, I'm pretty down on reading in general lately as that approach has left me burned on a couple of occasions.

also, was reading some interview with The Witcher author about the upcoming show and at the end he said he thinks Joe ABercrombie is the best fantasy author today. :bow:

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