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Post by Mr Nick09 on Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:26 pm

EC is reporting a meet between Mourinho and Perez last weekend. He reaffirmed his commitment to stay at the club to both Perez and Sanchez. He feels supported and he is happy the whole club is going in the same direction. He wanted to respond to all the support Perez gave to him, so unless major incident, he will remain at the club.

They also talked about January transfers, and Mou again said he wants no change. Long term strategy wise, they arent going to change a lot from the team next season.

He highlighted the need of a DM in case Lass does leave, and strenthtening the right side since Ramos is turning into a CB. They will also be attentive to offers coming for Kaka

http://www.elconfidencial.com/deportes/liga-bbva/2011/11/15/mourinho-ya-ha-dado-el-si-a-florentino-perez-para-la-proxima-temporada-87731/

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Post by Guest on Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:07 pm

Yeah... everything's being run around his system. He'd be crazy to leave. Needs to win big trophies though. Patience at Madrid is about as long as my 3 year-old nieces....

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Post by Doc on Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:11 pm

Yeah, Mou staying isn't as bad as we thought initially. As for the squad, I have several things I wouldn't mind happening:

A) Get Di Maria a right foot
B) If (A) can't happen, get Hazard
C) Tell Cristiano choose a hairstyle and stick to it. Consistency is key here.

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Post by Zees on Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:46 pm

@Doc wrote:Yeah, Mou staying isn't as bad as we thought initially. As for the squad, I have several things I wouldn't mind happening:

A) Get Di Maria a right foot
B) If (A) can't happen, get Hazard
C) Tell Cristiano choose a hairstyle and stick to it. Consistency is key here.
that made me lol Laughing

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Post by SuperMAG on Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:04 pm

Sell Granero, Antilop, Lass and replace them with Mvila and Kyle Walker.

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Post by estrella bernabeu on Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:13 pm

He can achieve something historical with this squad, so leaving at the end of the season will be just insane.

If Mou is convenced that SR4 should stick at his post, and we have renewed to Carvalho, so what are you going to do with our CB sub ? (speaking of Albiol at least)

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Post by teamanarchy on Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:16 pm

Kyle Walker. Really?

We could maybe get Faubert back on a permanent deal too...

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Post by teamanarchy on Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:19 pm

Oh, BTW, if Ramos is really moving to CB, what is the plan for Varane?

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:30 pm

@teamanarchy wrote:Oh, BTW, if Ramos is really moving to CB, what is the plan for Varane?

He is still going to be in the rotation.

I dont want us to sign a RB. If we sign a DM, it would be nice if he can play defense, so that Ramos move back on the right if needed. Carvajal is rising up, so maybe we can think about it long term.


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Post by Guest on Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:33 pm

I have less than zero confidence that Mou will rotate CBs if both Pepe and Ramos remain healthy... maybe a game a month each.

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Post by Doc on Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:34 pm

Kyle Walker? A good player who can be very good but why would one want him?!

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Post by SuperMAG on Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:40 pm

he is very very fast. can dribble and cross and a very balanced Rb in term of attack and defence.

We need a speedy monster, some one who makes that super fast diagnoal run. especially since all our attacks go to left.

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Post by Guest on Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:46 pm

Need i say it... Debuchy from Lille!!! lol.

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Post by estrella bernabeu on Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:47 pm

@sportsczy wrote:I have less than zero confidence that Mou will rotate CBs if both Pepe and Ramos remain healthy... maybe a game a month each.

Maybe preliminary Copa tours or the rest of the CL matchs !! Other than that, CB sub should be warming up till Pepe, Ramos gor Arbeloa get injured.

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Post by guest7 on Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:48 pm

Mou won't rotate Ramos and Pepe just becouse they need to work on their communication. It's noticable they need to work on theirs aswell.

Thus why I think Varane should have went to Man U (for his devolopment sake)
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:51 pm

If we are going to buy a RB, we might as well sign Isla. He is the best available RB out there. His maturity, experience, versatility would be a huge plus, and there is no language barrier. Walker doesnt compare to him.

Like i said, not sure we need one because that's blocking Carvajal, but if we have to, then he is the one.


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Post by SuperMAG on Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:10 pm

isla, not a big fan though. i like much much fast fullbacks.

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Post by EarlyPrototype on Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:15 pm

Isla is more of a RWB and we already have Marcelo. Playing with 2 very attacking fullbacks could be risky. We might as well stick with Arbeloa who is solid and use Carvajal as second choice. Arbeloa is 28/29 Carvajal could slowly integrate into the team.
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Post by futbol_bill on Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:21 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:EC is reporting a meet between Mourinho and Perez last weekend. He reaffirmed his commitment to stay at the club to both Perez and Sanchez. He feels supported and he is happy the whole club is going in the same direction. He wanted to respond to all the support Perez gave to him, so unless major incident, he will remain at the club.

They also talked about January transfers, and Mou again said he wants no change. Long term strategy wise, they arent going to change a lot from the team next season.

He highlighted the need of a DM in case Lass does leave, and strenthtening the right side since Ramos is turning into a CB. They will also be attentive to offers coming for Kaka

http://www.elconfidencial.com/deportes/liga-bbva/2011/11/15/mourinho-ya-ha-dado-el-si-a-florentino-perez-para-la-proxima-temporada-87731/

Ok Nick & Sports, say that new DM is M'Vila. I'll assume for the moment that Lass and one of Granero or Altintop leave (I don't think all 3 will go). How does M'Vila accept back-up or at least rotation play. He'll be competing with Khedira, Coentrao and Granero or Altintop? And at times with Alonso or Sahin.
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Post by futbol_bill on Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:23 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
@teamanarchy wrote:Oh, BTW, if Ramos is really moving to CB, what is the plan for Varane?

He is still going to be in the rotation.

I dont want us to sign a RB. If we sign a DM, it would be nice if he can play defense, so that Ramos move back on the right if needed. Carvajal is rising up, so maybe we can think about it long term.


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Post by Adit on Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:26 pm

why facepalm bill?

I agree with him,no need for another RB when we have the spanish U19 RB with us.Not to mention we need more spanish players Smile

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Post by Guest on Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:31 pm

Carvajal is 2 years away from being ready and we have no cover for Arbeloa assuming Lass leaves... we need to sign depth there.

M'Vila will be ok with rotation for a year. In the second year, he'd expect playing time to increase with an eye on starting. Same deal with every young player frankly. That's why you need to cycle them through.

Knowing how hard M'Vila works, i'd be surprised if he didn't force himself in sometime in the first year.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:35 pm

@futbol_bill wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:EC is reporting a meet between Mourinho and Perez last weekend. He reaffirmed his commitment to stay at the club to both Perez and Sanchez. He feels supported and he is happy the whole club is going in the same direction. He wanted to respond to all the support Perez gave to him, so unless major incident, he will remain at the club.

They also talked about January transfers, and Mou again said he wants no change. Long term strategy wise, they arent going to change a lot from the team next season.

He highlighted the need of a DM in case Lass does leave, and strenthtening the right side since Ramos is turning into a CB. They will also be attentive to offers coming for Kaka

http://www.elconfidencial.com/deportes/liga-bbva/2011/11/15/mourinho-ya-ha-dado-el-si-a-florentino-perez-para-la-proxima-temporada-87731/

Ok Nick & Sports, say that new DM is M'Vila. I'll assume for the moment that Lass and one of Granero or Altintop leave (I don't think all 3 will go). How does M'Vila accept back-up or at least rotation play. He'll be competing with Khedira, Coentrao and Granero or Altintop? And at times with Alonso or Sahin.

The 3 can go, each have a different problem. Lass always wanted to go, Granero is not playing no more, and Altintop wants to play as well. there is a chance all 3 leaves.

It's a difficult sell, but like i said, you need to trim the line up to bring him in. The real problem here is coentrao, so there is still a chance we dont sign a DM.

In my opinion, if we had Sahin/Alonso/Khed/M'vila, with one of them being used as an occasional defender the way Biscuit is with Barca, it would go smoothly. But that means you dont sign a RB, and you work on playing M'vila in a deeper role. ex: Ramos-Pepe/varane-M'vila/Javi-marcelo. You do it occasionally for rotation or depending on injuries and such. That's why i wanted Javi, he can be competent as CB, but i know that M'vila can also play as a RB. You tell M'vila that he will get lots of minutes everywhere, in 2 years, guys like Xabi might slow down, and if he is better than Khedira, he will beat him for a starting spot.

Like i said, Coentrao is the only bump here, Mou can try to turn him into an all around DM and stick him there, and then maybe sign a RB. many combinations. Signing a pure RB, that will only be used as RB, can potentially clog the line up.

edit: why the facepalm? Very Happy

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Post by futbol_bill on Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:46 pm

@Adit wrote:why facepalm bill?

I agree with him,no need for another RB when we have the spanish U19 RB with us.Not to mention we need more spanish players Smile

Sorry, my fingers are too fat for the new ipad I've been using!! I meant this

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Post by futbol_bill on Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:55 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
@futbol_bill wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:EC is reporting a meet between Mourinho and Perez last weekend. He reaffirmed his commitment to stay at the club to both Perez and Sanchez. He feels supported and he is happy the whole club is going in the same direction. He wanted to respond to all the support Perez gave to him, so unless major incident, he will remain at the club.

They also talked about January transfers, and Mou again said he wants no change. Long term strategy wise, they arent going to change a lot from the team next season.

He highlighted the need of a DM in case Lass does leave, and strenthtening the right side since Ramos is turning into a CB. They will also be attentive to offers coming for Kaka

http://www.elconfidencial.com/deportes/liga-bbva/2011/11/15/mourinho-ya-ha-dado-el-si-a-florentino-perez-para-la-proxima-temporada-87731/

Ok Nick & Sports, say that new DM is M'Vila. I'll assume for the moment that Lass and one of Granero or Altintop leave (I don't think all 3 will go). How does M'Vila accept back-up or at least rotation play. He'll be competing with Khedira, Coentrao and Granero or Altintop? And at times with Alonso or Sahin.

The 3 can go, each have a different problem. Lass always wanted to go, Granero is not playing no more, and Altintop wants to play as well. there is a chance all 3 leaves.

It's a difficult sell, but like i said, you need to trim the line up to bring him in. The real problem here is coentrao, so there is still a chance we dont sign a DM.

In my opinion, if we had Sahin/Alonso/Khed/M'vila, with one of them being used as an occasional defender the way Biscuit is with Barca, it would go smoothly. But that means you dont sign a RB, and you work on playing M'vila in a deeper role. ex: Ramos-Pepe/varane-M'vila/Javi-marcelo. You do it occasionally for rotation or depending on injuries and such. That's why i wanted Javi, he can be competent as CB, but i know that M'vila can also play as a RB. You tell M'vila that he will get lots of minutes everywhere, in 2 years, guys like Xabi might slow down, and if he is better than Khedira, he will beat him for a starting spot.

Like i said, Coentrao is the only bump here, Mou can try to turn him into an all around DM and stick him there, and then maybe sign a RB. many combinations. Signing a pure RB, that will only be used as RB, can potentially clog the line up.

edit: why the facepalm? Very Happy

OK next question, since you (or Sports) say he is young and will accept some rotation, is can he play RB as cover? If so I'm all for it. I still think we won't get rid of all 3 (Granero, Altintop and Lass), but there will be 2 of them going and to me, it's Ok to bring M'Vila in under those circumstances. It will however put Mou in a bit of a bind re Coentrao unless Marcelo gets hurt. Re RB, it still leaves the question, can either Coentrao or Marcelo play on the right, assume occasionally. And also re RB, all 3 of Albiol, Carvalho and Varane can play RB if they are really in need of cover. With Ramos moving to Cb, the pecking order for RB will be
Arbeloa, Ramos, Lass or M'Vila or Varane (if they all can play a decent role at RB), then Albiol and Carvalho. These are not necessarily WC RB, but they aren't terrible either. More than enough coverage until the kid is ready.
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